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    But Saytown is fattest of them all. There's fat, and then there's FAT.


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    But Saytown is fattest of them all. There's fat, and then there's FAT.
    That post just made the past 4 championships meaningless to me.

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    I guess Mr. Shred isnt going to respond. Next time keep it basketball related and dont start with the city smack jack ass... I know its hard to do since the weak ass Suns dont have on the Spurs but knocking a city is uncool. I got no problem with the city of Phoenix or the state of Arizona, in fact I think its a beautiful city and state, but if you pull like that expect to be responded to. If the only problem San Antonio has is being over weight then thats several legs up on most other cities, including yours, in this nation.

    in case your wondering, I weigh 164lb, just checked

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    INDIANA SPURS FANS REPRESENTIN'!!!

    http://healthyamericans.org/reports/...php?StateID=IN


    Guess people in Arizona are too busy trying to figure out how to keep their lawns green to sit down and eat, huh?

    http://healthyamericans.org/reports/...php?StateID=AZ


    Don't worry, Texans. Someday, you'll be just like us Hoosiers.

    http://healthyamericans.org/reports/...php?StateID=TX


    CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?





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    San Antonio Is Way Too Fat.

    Is S.A.'s high rate of obesity scaring away businesses?

    Web Posted: 11/27/2007 08:56 PM CST

    Travis E. Poling
    Express-News Business Writer

    Is San Antonio's health status — with its residents' propensity for obesity and diabetes — hurting chances of bringing new employers to the city?
    State Sen. Leticia Van de Putte, D-San Antonio, thinks so, and plans to urge community leaders to make improving the city's health as important as creating an educated work force.

    But members of the economic development community and site selection experts say health issues still are down on the list of things companies are looking for when they relocate.

    In the end, companies would rather spend money on wellness programs to keep expenses down and get lucrative tax abatements and incentives from state and local governments.

    It isn't unusual to see San Antonio cited in various magazine lists for obesity. Forbes magazine was the latest to weigh in last week, naming the home of Tex-Mex cuisine as the third-most obese city in America (behind Memphis, Tenn., at No. 1 and Birmingham, Ala., at No. 2).

    The analysis of major market data from the Centers for Disease Control found 31.1 percent of San Antonians had a body mass index over 30, which is the statistical measuring stick for obesity.

    Van de Putte said she was told recently by an out-of-state CEO that the city's community health rating was working against it in attracting employers.

    "If you're hiring 200-plus people for the long term, obesity and insurance costs are a major issue," Van de Putte said. "That's a huge cost, and he (the CEO) said that's the downer for San Antonio."

    Van de Putte didn't reveal the name of the CEO and former site selection manager for a large corporation.

    At the recent health-care summit of the San Antonio Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, Van de Putte encouraged the business community to take health issues seriously as an economic development measure.

    "I want the business community to know that health care is not just a social justice or access issue," she said. "I want to visit with the mayor, the (county) judge and the Economic Development Foundation about the issue as it relates to business."

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    Mario Hernandez, president of the private San Antonio Economic Development Foundation, said he never has heard San Antonio's health status or insurance costs come up during the site selection process.

    "Anything we can do to improve the community is great, but we need long-term solutions," Hernandez said.

    When it comes to improving factors significant to economic growth, he said dealing with school dropout rates and SAT scores are more immediate.

    Allison Castle, a spokeswoman for the economic development division of the Texas governor's office, said businesses are concerned about health-care costs, but there's no state data to show they are singling out health for site selection.

    Helen Darling, president of the National Business Group on Health based in Washington, said health status isn't looked at as a site selection criterion, but it should be.

    "I wish it were. It's far more important than people realize," Darling said.

    She recalls helping several companies assess health issues and costs for relocation, but the information ultimately was overlooked in favor of tax rebates offered as incentives by competing states and cities.

    "It's million of dollars in hard cash," she said of the tax incentives. "I may look at somebody who is 100 pounds overweight and think, 'That's a ticking time bomb.' The company may look at that same employee and think, 'There's a person who needs to lose weight.'"

    Darling said obese workers, on average, cost employers 56 percent more than employees in their ideal weight range. The cost factors include longer recovery times from common illness, days missed because of depression, higher rates of short-term and long-term disability and greater likelihood to have Type 2 diabetes.

    "Health, if it's on the list of criteria, it's really far down the list," said Michael Rodriguez, a senior consultant in the Houston office of benefits company Towers Perrin. "If there is a trend, it's very early in that trend."

    San Antonio usually is on the low end of health insurance costs for major employers, Rodriguez said. What's more, he finds that clients are looking more at labor, airports, highways and cost of living when they expand into new markets.

    "You can't use surveys like fittest or fattest cities as indicators," Rodriguez said. "Companies are looking for people who are willing to work for a reasonable price, and San Antonio has a lot going for it along those lines."

    Bill King, chief editor of Expansion Management magazine, said employers could measure what health factors in certain cities could cost them, but for now "it's an academic exercise."

    The magazine's annual analysis of health costs by state rated Texas in the middle of the pack. The state ranked fourth in health-care availability and hospital costs and had high rankings for malpractice insurance costs and cost of doctors. But a ranking of 47th among the states for health-care providers and 48th for insurance costs dragged down the overall rating.

    Departure influence


    There was a time when health insurance costs were a major factor for companies relocating from California to lower health cost states, said James Renzas, head of site selection consulting firm Location Management Services in Mission Viejo, Calif.

    Health insurance costs in California since have moderated and no longer play a large role, Renzas said, and have been replaced by access to inexpensive energy as a key relocation factor.

    Darling acknowledges that while companies don't take work force health into location consideration, more are getting aggressive about making and keeping workers healthier.

    Darling cited Toyota Motor Manufacturing North America and San Antonio-based grocer and retailer H-E-B as great examples of work force wellness programs. USAA also has made wellness a major part of its corporate culture with walking trails, tennis courts, fitness centers, an abundance of healthy food choices on the massive campus and a campuswide smoking ban.



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    20 hours to only come up with another obesity article?

    fail. not only fail. 4th grade reading comprehension fail.

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    20 hours to only come up with another obesity article?

    fail. not only fail. 4th grade reading comprehension fail.
    I sort of had to wait for this morning's paper to come out, sorry.

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    INDIANA SPURS FANS REPRESENTIN'!!!

    http://healthyamericans.org/reports/...php?StateID=IN


    Guess people in Arizona are too busy trying to figure out how to keep their lawns green to sit down and eat, huh?

    http://healthyamericans.org/reports/...php?StateID=AZ


    Don't worry, Texans. Someday, you'll be just like us Hoosiers.

    http://healthyamericans.org/reports/...php?StateID=TX


    CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?




    And those stats have NOTHING whatsoever to do with the huge numbers of fata$$ Midwesterners moving to AZ....

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    Will the Suns be raising a banner for their "Our fans are not quite as fat as the Spurs'" championship?

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    Weight smack Shred? Weak sauce. Very weak sauce.

    I guess shoe size is next?

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