Who said this quote, and where is he?

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I'd start my team with TP over anyone on that list.

Homer.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

Homer.

Obvious come back.

You've never known me to be a homer in any other post. Go ahead and check if you care.

It's just so obvious. No -- I don't think TP is the best player in the NBA but it is an objective fact that he can't be stopped when his inside and outside game is on. And it's very diificult to stop him when just one of those aspects is working.

Plus -- he is a better defender than anyone on that list, even Billups, who is slowing. Parker is underrated on D.

Those pgs you listed are all good but look who the coaches have picked as an All-Star.

MY OPINIONN is that Parker, Chris Paul, and Jason Kidd are the best 3 pgs in the NBA. And I would take Tony first.

[remingtonbo2001]

I'd start my team with TP over anyone on that list.

Even Manu was jealous of the TP was throwin' up last night!

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Plus -- he is a better defender than anyone on that list, even Billups, who is slowing.

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It's just so obvious. No -- I don't think TP is the best player in the NBA but it is an objective fact that he can't be stopped when his inside and outside game is on. And it's very diificult to stop him when just one of those aspects is working.

Umm... that is typically the case with all players. Good job, Captain Obvious.

[SpursIndonesia]

Nash has MUCH better court vision & outside shooting, Kidd is still the best rebounding, all around PG of the league, but i don't hold any other PG higher than Tony outside those two mentioned players. I use to put Billups on a higher note, but this year he has fallen a bit up to this point.

So, the 2nd tier PG list should go with these guys : B Davis, Tony Parker, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Chauncey Billups, and their exact rank is pretty darn arguable, no clear cut conclusion outside homerish or trollish opinion.

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Nash has MUCH better court vision & outside shooting, Kidd is still the best rebounding, all around PG of the league, but i don't hold any other PG higher than Tony outside those two mentioned players. I use to put Billups on a higher note, but this year he has fallen a bit up to this point.

So, the 2nd tier PG list should go with these guys : B Davis, Tony Parker, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Chauncey Billups, and their exact rank is pretty darn arguable, no clear cut conclusion outside homerish or trollish opinion.

Personally, I think that Chris Paul is the best all-around PG in the league, and that Baron Davis is the most gifted and talented PG in the league. I think when playing at their best, they are the two most unstoppable PGs. Especially Baron Davis. His problem is he takes too many dumb shots, but when he is playing smart, he is among the 5 most unguardable players in the league, IMO.

[2centsworth]

Parker is playing great and has matured into a vet. I've always said the reason the Suns can never beat the Spurs is because of Tony abuse of Nash.

I do want both Tony and Tim to figure something out agains Dallas this coming week.

[spursfan09]

doesn't matter if you mav fans don't consider TP one of the best pgs in the league. He is the best pg for the spurs and last year's championship proved that.

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doesn't matter if you mav fans don't consider TP one of the best pgs in the league. He is the best pg for the spurs and last year's championship proved that.

Um, if he is starting, then he's SUPPOSED be the best PG for the Spurs. No one argued that one bit.

[spursfan09]

Um, what I meant, is that hes the best pg out of everyone in the league to play in the Spurs system.

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Um, what I meant, is that hes the best pg out of everyone in the league to play in the Spurs system.

He's the only PG in the league that plays in the Spurs system.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

Umm... that is typically the case with all players. Good job, Captain Obvious.

Really? When any player is playing his best game he is UNSTOPPABLE? Get real.

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Really? When any player is playing his best game he is UNSTOPPABLE? Get real.

According to you, when Parker is hitting his shots both on the inside and outside, he is unstoppable.

If Rajon Rondo is hitting all of his shots both inside and on the outside, wouldn't that mean he is playing at an unstoppable level for that game? If you are hitting shots, that means you are not being stopped, thus any player that hits all their shots are playing at an unstoppable level for that game.

[spursfan09]

Are you really that stupid? I'm gonna give you the benefit of a doubt and assume you are being scarcastic. Or do you need me to break it down for you?

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Are you really that stupid? I'm gonna give you the benefit of a doubt and assume you are being scarcastic. Or do you need me to break it down for you?

How can you prove to me that Tony Parker is the absolute best PG for the Spurs system when he is the only PG that has played in it for the past 5-6 years?

[spursfan09]

Ugh Spurs have won 3 championships. Not any Pg can just come in and do what TP has done to help them win them. If you don't see that then that is just your bias against him, and you refusing to see TP as one of the best pg's in the league.

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Ugh Spurs have won 3 championships. Not any Pg can just come in and do what TP has done to help them win them. If you don't see that then that is just your bias against him, and you refusing to see TP as one of the best pg's in the league.

That has nothing to do with our argument. You told me you were going to break it down how TP is the best PG in the league at running the Spurs system. I say that is something that is impossible to tell, because of the fact that no one else has had a chance to run their system. If you can break it down, then by all means, do so. I'm very interested in seeing your logic here.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

Parker can basically do whatever he wants inside to create his shot. he is able to score inside BETTER than can other PGs. Therefore he is BETTER able to open up his outside game. And he is potentially BETTER at outside shooting than those other pgs.

What can Rajon Rondo do inside?? What about outside?

If his 'inside' game is 'on,' like, on 'all cylinders' on, he's as good as Parker? Ok -- that's your opinion, I guess.

You (Stretch) think Rajon Rondo's best game is as good as TPs.

Here's my opinion:
Neither Rajon Rondo nor arguably any other G in the league can match TP inside. Other pgs can shoot from outside the lane as well or even better but TP is already in the top tier shooters at PG.

[spursfan09]

Why bother arguing with you? You twist the words around and you make it the way you want to see it. All I said was that TP is the best pg for the Spurs, and you agreeed correct? No other pg will fit like TP does. He is probably the fastest of all the pg's, he has one of the best if not the best fg percentage. He has a teardrop that is unblockable most of the time. He can get into the lane when ever he wants. He is perfect for them. We don't need him to be a passer with great court vision. We need his scoring, his breaking down of defenses. To top it off he won the finals MVP last year. How much more proof do you need to know he is he best?

[BeerIsGood!]

I see you guys aren't accustomed to stretch yet.

[Findog]

Ugh Spurs have won 3 championships. Not any Pg can just come in and do what TP has done to help them win them.

True, I can't see San Antonio having the same success with Sebastian Telfair starting in the backcourt. But there's about five or six guys that could start at PG for a le-winning Spurs team. Very good player and one of the borderline All Star types. But If Parker ain't scoring, he ain't helping.

[BeerIsGood!]

Steve Nash would be the best PG in the NBA if he didn't only play on one end of the court. Someone who plays only half of the game by definition cannot be the best. You can make a valid argument that he is the best offensive or best playmaking PG in the game, but definitely not the best. The fact that he is a complete defensive liability is probably the biggest reason his team has not found a way to crack the Spurs or the Mavs in the playoffs. Especially now, where the Spurs are almost unbeatable if you let Parker run wild in your paint - Nash's inability to do anything defensively makes that team have to put him on Bowen if Bowen is in the game, and that s everything up because it takes Bell off of a player he could somewhat slow down and puts him on a player he can't touch.

[duncan228]

So...Did anyone find who posted what T Park is looking for?
It seems not...

[T Park]

Parker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Paul

good lord its not even close