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    fox owns them? they have the 32% dead enders to cater to.. and I see they have done a fine job..
    And outdraw all cable news networks. Yeah, just all us
    dead enders watching.

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    And outdraw all cable news networks. Yeah, just all us
    dead enders watching.

    ok i guess i am going to have to explain it to you in plain simple language. we can agree that this country is 48% democrat, 48% republican. correct? if one conservative news organization caters to 48% and the rest (6 or7) of the news stations cater to other 48% who wins?

    48% have one station that caters to their views

    and the other 48% have 6 or 7 options to choose from.... which would then mean their numbers would be dilluted amongs the 6 or 7 options..

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    It shouldn't matter who is asking the question at all. Period.

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    I hear this crap from both sides of the aisle. Why would any network overtly try and favor a candidate? Considering we are living in the age of the blogosphere looking for anything that smells bad.. Are these news organizations that stupid?

    No, it's that our candidates from both major parties are predetermined....remember in 03-early 04 Howard Dean, the populist candidate, was the Democratic front-runner - it was this same M$M who used the only open-mic at a campaign event Dean had to scream into to be heard in the loud room....made him sound like a lunatic....all of the sudden here comes the chosen candidate, John Kerry, out of nowhere, certainly not a populist candidate...more pro-business, more centrist, despite what Rushbo says....

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    Kerry could have won if he would have responded to the negative attacks much sooner.

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    ...unfortunately, Kerry would have been just as weak as Dubya, but likely for different reasons.....

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    And that can be said of all candidates for different reasons.

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    I hear this crap from both sides of the aisle. Why would any network overtly try and favor a candidate? Considering we are living in the age of the blogosphere looking for anything that smells bad.. Are these news organizations that stupid?
    Ratings. The networks would LOVE to have a woman running for office.

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    No wait, he's right.

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    It shouldn't matter who is asking the question at all. Period.
    I don't see it so much as who asks the question as to the importance of a question. This was a republican debate. It should have covered republican points of interest only. That is where the who becomes important when the who is a biased idiot.

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    I don't see it so much as who asks the question as to the importance of a question. This was a republican debate. It should have covered republican points of interest only. That is where the who becomes important when the who is a biased idiot.
    Huh? Shouldn't they be American points of interest? Republican points of interest only? You think immigration is only a republican point of interest? The Iraq war is only a republican point of interest? Education is only a republican point of interest?
    That just doesn't make sense to me at all.

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    How the M$M was compromised.....

    But not only has the government tried to control people's minds, they've copped to controlling the media, too. Operation Mockingbird, the CIA's plan to infiltrate America's newsrooms, was such a success that former CIA director William Colby boasted, "the Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any major significance in the major media." Carl Bernstein substantiated this, revealing that hundreds of journalists and news organizations were involved in this subversion.
    Buzzflash

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    Huh? Shouldn't they be American points of interest? Republican points of interest only? You think immigration is only a republican point of interest? The Iraq war is only a republican point of interest? Education is only a republican point of interest?
    That just doesn't make sense to me at all.
    Yes to the republican points of interest only since this is a republican debate.

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    Fox News refuses to run pro-Cons ution ad

    Fox News has refused to air an ad produced by the Center for Cons utional Rights that criticizes the Bush administration for "destroying the Cons ution" by the use of renditions, torture, and other tactics. The ad, "Rescue the Cons ution," which is narrated by actor Danny Glover, can be viewed here.
    In an email provided to Media Matters for America by the Center, Fox News account executive Erin Kelly told Owen Henkel, the Center's e-communications manager, that Fox would not run the ad:

    Hi Owen --

    We cannot approve the spot with it being Danny Glover's opinion that the Bush Administration is destroying the Cons ution. If you have do entation that it is indeed being destroyed, we can look at that.

    Sorry about that,
    Erin


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    Fox News refuses to run pro-Cons ution ad

    Fox News has refused to air an ad produced by the Center for Cons utional Rights that criticizes the Bush administration for "destroying the Cons ution" by the use of renditions, torture, and other tactics. The ad, "Rescue the Cons ution," which is narrated by actor Danny Glover, can be viewed here.
    In an email provided to Media Matters for America by the Center, Fox News account executive Erin Kelly told Owen Henkel, the Center's e-communications manager, that Fox would not run the ad:

    Hi Owen --

    We cannot approve the spot with it being Danny Glover's opinion that the Bush Administration is destroying the Cons ution. If you have do entation that it is indeed being destroyed, we can look at that.

    Sorry about that,
    Erin


    Danny Who? You mean the little, short Liberal guy. Is
    he a Cons utional expert. I didn't know that.

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    Danny Who? You mean the little, short Liberal guy. Is
    he a Cons utional expert. I didn't know that.

    yet fox news allows and promotes the "democrats want to surrender" slander everyday.. we call that selective enforcement ray.. it is beyond acknowledgement that fox news is biased towards non conservatives..

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    Fox News refuses to run pro-Cons ution ad

    In an email provided to Media Matters for America by the Center, Fox News account executive Erin Kelly told Owen Henkel, the Center's e-communications manager, that Fox would not run the ad:

    Hi Owen --

    We cannot approve the spot with it being Danny Glover's opinion that the Bush Administration is destroying the Cons ution. If you have do entation that it is indeed being destroyed, we can look at that.

    Sorry about that,
    Erin
    Wow, I wonder what do entation they had showing that Barack Obama grew up as a Muslim and attended an Islamic madrassa before they ran that story.....

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    yet fox news allows and promotes the "democrats want to surrender" slander everyday.. we call that selective enforcement ray.. it is beyond acknowledgement that fox news is biased towards non conservatives..
    Is that right. Harry Reid and Nancy, miss american, Pelosi
    didn't want us out of Iraq, and still do, is not the face of
    the Dimm-o-craps, and still say we are losing. Give me
    a break youngster. Oh, Mr. Murtha now is on the Republican
    side. He says the surge is working. Want to try and
    explain that?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Is that right. Harry Reid and Nancy, miss american, Pelosi
    didn't want us out of Iraq, and still do, is not the face of
    the Dimm-o-craps, and still say we are losing. Give me
    a break youngster. Oh, Mr. Murtha now is on the Republican
    side. He says the surge is working. Want to try and
    explain that?

    Well any 8th grade student could tell you that if you put more boots on the ground you will be able to hold more of it. how's the political side of that coming along ray? you do rememebr that every general who has served in Iraq has said this is not a war that we can win with military alone.. so let me ask you AGAIN how's that political process coming along? so now do you consider mr murtha a credible source? for an old experienced guy you sure ain't bright...

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Wow, I wonder what do entation they had showing that Barack Obama grew up as a Muslim and attended an Islamic madrassa before they ran that story.....

    for a few days.... but they only want stories and advertisements that can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt..

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    Well any 8th grade student could tell you that if you put more boots on the ground you will be able to hold more of it. how's the political side of that coming along ray? you do rememebr that every general who has served in Iraq has said this is not a war that we can win with military alone.. so let me ask you AGAIN how's that political process coming along? so now do you consider mr murtha a credible source? for an old experienced guy you sure ain't bright...
    Next question please. I know you will have many more
    as we progress and continue to win and gall you no end.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Next question please. I know you will have many more
    as we progress and continue to win and gall you no end.

    well can we at least assume you mean winning politically as well? Why won't you acknowledge that we have to have progress from the Iraqis as well?

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    No we don't have to assume anything. Folks like you and the
    Media lost the war in VN because folks like me kept their mouth
    shut. I don't plan on letting that happen again. So you
    spout you stuff and I will give my opinion. How bout that?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    No we don't have to assume anything. Folks like you and the
    Media lost the war in VN because folks like me kept their mouth
    shut. I don't plan on letting that happen again. So you
    spout you stuff and I will give my opinion. How bout that?

    I will asnwer for you. Yes GGA we still need the Iraqis to hold up their end of the bargain. I can see why people would want to hold off declaring victory because our military alone can't force the Iraqis to form a cohesive govt. If the Iraqis fail then this was all for naught.

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    Typical. You think you have all the answers, when you don't
    even know all the questions.

    I would appreciate it if you don't attempt to read my mind, when
    you don't have a coherent mind of you own.

    Time and cir stances will answer all our questions. Things
    will play themselves out.

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