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Thank God for Bill O'Reilly when you're able to sing X-mas carols without being blowed up by the jihadists:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/1...y_n_76712.html
"rejects bigotry...directed against Christians..."
He nailed you there bouts.
Thank God for Bill O'Reilly when you're able to sing X-mas carols without being blowed up by the jihadists:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/1...y_n_76712.html
It's not the jihadists that you have to worry about, it's those damn secular-progressives. Thank god we have a culture warrior like O'Reilly to look after us.
Merry Christmas and god bless us everyone....(except for the Jews, minorities and sexuals)
Last edited by Mr. Peabody; 12-14-2007 at 11:44 AM.
Looks like the resolution passed easily
Congress's Bullying Pulpit
By Sally Quinn
Sunday, December 23, 2007; B07
As a child, I went to a small school in rural Alabama near an Army post where my father was stationed. It was a very Christian town, and our teacher was "born again."
This was decades ago, but I remember clearly how she used to tell us that we must accept Jesus Christ as our personal savior. Then she would ask for hands to see who had. By age 11 I had become a nonbeliever. My father was in the Army and had fought in World War II and Korea; I concluded quickly that no loving God could have allowed those atrocities to be committed.
But we had all seen our teacher, when crossed, call an unlucky member of our class up to the front of the room, make the student lie down on her desk and be paddled. The humiliation was worse than the pain. So, when she called on us to admit that we had accepted Jesus as our savior, I dutifully raised my hand.
Thank goodness, those days are over, you might be thinking. Nothing like that could happen in this country today.
Well, think again. It happened this month, right here in Washington.
On Dec. 11, H.R. 847 was passed in the House of Representatives. Just listen to what our lawmakers have resolved:
"Whereas Christmas, a holiday of great significance to Americans," it begins, "is celebrated annually by Christians throughout the United States. . . ." It goes on to state, among other things, that "Christianity [is] the religion of over three-fourths of the American population," that "American Christians observe Christmas, the holiday celebrating the birth of their savior, Jesus Christ," and that "Christmas is celebrated as a recognition of God's redemption, mercy, and Grace."
"Now, therefore be it Resolved, that the House of Representatives . . . expresses continued support for Christians in the United States . . . acknowledges and supports the role played by Christians and Christianity in the founding of the United States . . . rejects bigotry and persecution directed against Christians, both in the United States and worldwide; and expresses its deepest respect to American Christians."
For brevity, I have omitted the resolution's references to Christianity around the world.
This resolution passed with 195 Democratic yea votes, 177 Republican yeas and nine Democratic nays. No Republicans voted against it. Ten House members voted "present." Forty were not there, including the bill's sponsor, Rep. Steve King of Iowa.
Among those voting for the resolution was a Jewish member of Congress who has asked me not to print his name. He was outraged and appalled by the bill, he told me. But he was also afraid. He thought it would hurt him with his mostly Christian cons uency if he voted against it. He told some of his colleagues about his anguish. They advised him not to be stupid. It would be better for him politically if he voted for it.
It's possible that the 10 who voted "present" also had problems with the bill but decided it was safer not to vote against it. One could also assume that some of those who were absent were not there so as not to have to deal with the problem.
Earlier this year the House also passed resolutions honoring Islamic and Indian holidays but nothing that so equated a single faith with America and Americans.
How could this happen, in what will soon be 2008, in a pluralistic, multicultural, multireligious society, a society based on the concepts of religious freedom and separation of church and state? What were they thinking?
This resolution was as anti-American as anything Congress has ever passed. It disenfranchised and marginalized millions and millions of men and women, reducing them to second-class citizens.
How about this next time around: "Whereas all holidays have great significance to some Americans, be it resolved that the House of Representatives expresses its deepest respect to Americans of all faiths and non-faith alike."
(nah, that not Chrisitian/white supremacist enough)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101920_pf.html
I can imagine Rep. King sitting in his office after the Ramadan resolution passed. Congress usually doesn't pass religious resolutions like that, but after much liberal back-patting, he began to think, "What would be the reaction if I proposed a Christmas resolution?" What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
I can imagine him then thinking that the liberals would not be able to help themselves. Somebody would blow a gasket over a Christmas resolution. There would be cries of "fascism!" It would provide an easy opportunity to contrast the liberal reaction to a recognition of Islam to their reaction to a recognition of Christianity. They could be painted as favoring Muslims over Christians. Even more than hypocrites, they could be smeared as obsequious cowards... all by a silly little Christmas resolution.
Members of Congress themselves hardly could be goaded into taking such obvious bait, and the resolution passed easily, but there always seems to be a chump who takes the fall, and in this case it was Sally Quinn. Thanks, Sally, from the GOP!
How can you be an atheist and Christmas be your favorite holiday. Christmas IS a religious holiday. Always has been. Way to contradict yourself there.....poser atheist.
I hate like this. First of all, more congressmen should've had the balls to vote how they really felt. If they were outraged about it, then go ahead and say it. Someone needs to call it out.
I agree with substance of the resolution, but the US Government should not be making any kind of statements that favor one religion over another.
I like how Christmas is a Christian holiday and yet EVERYONE wants to particitpate yet still criticize it for being religious. If you don't like it, DON'T celebrate it. No one is twisting your arm. But don't try to take, or rationalize taking religion out of it. Not going to happen.... secular progressive assholes.
One nation Under God
Yeah, but the government shouldn't be saying which God.
typical neo-con: telling us what we can celebrate, and how.
Well, they only caught 9 Democrats, but they're making hay of it anyway:
WND
I dont think Jesus had this in mind when he wanted us to be fishers of men.
Were the men who wrote the Cons ution not Christian?
Who says you can't like Christmas is you're an atheist?
Does it matter if they were Christian or not? They were smart enough to write this:
And actually I think most of them were influenced by Deism which bases the existence of God as a logical conclusion in a complex line of reasoning. They weren't Christians the way you and I are today, since we rely heavily on personal faith and spirituality.Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to pe ion the Government for a redress of grievances.
Some of them were. A lot of them were Deists, which were sort of the 18th-century version of liberal mainline Protestants.
so what about this list is uncons utional?(1) recognizes the Christian faith as one of the great religions of the world;
(2) expresses continued support for Christians in the United States and worldwide;
(3) acknowledges the international religious and historical importance of Christmas and the Christian faith;
(4) acknowledges and supports the role played by Christians and Christianity in the founding of the United States and in the formation of the western civilization;
(5) rejects bigotry and persecution directed against Christians, both in the United States and worldwide; and
(6) expresses its deepest respect to American Christians and Christians throughout the world."
What makes you think there will be an inquisition?
How big is the sandcastle lodged up your vaginas?
Irrelevant.
More Christian fascists/supremacists bull :
Now the Theocrats Want 'American Religious History Week'
By Chris Hedges, The Nation
Posted on January 15, 2008, Printed on January 16, 2008
http://www.alternet.org/story/73778/
Here is an event I have no intention of honoring: American Religious History Week. OK, it's not official yet. But it is spelled out as Resolution 888 in the bowels of a House committee, sponsored by Republican Congressman Randy Forbes and backed by thirty-one other Representatives. This is an insidious attempt by the radical Christian right to rewrite American history, to turn the founding fathers from deists into Christian fundamentalists, to proclaim us officially to be a Christian nation. If you want to know why Mike Huckabee is dangerous, why his brand of right-wing Christian populism is so frightening, you should read this resolution.
Sent to me by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, the resolution has passages like this: "Whereas political scientists have do ented that the most frequently-cited source in the political period known as The Founding Era was the Bible" and "Whereas the United States Supreme Court has declared throughout the course of our Nation's history that the United States is 'a Christian country', 'a Christian nation', 'a Christian people', 'a religious people whose ins utions presuppose a Supreme Being' and that 'we cannot read into the Bill of Rights a philosophy of hostility to religion....'"
The resolution is staggering for its sheer volume of falsehoods about our history, our system of government and our democracy. It asserts that Thomas Jefferson "urged local governments to make land available specifically for Christian purposes, provided Federal funding for missionary work among Indian tribes, and declared that religious schools would receive 'the patronage of the government.'" There are seventy-six preambular clauses like these, leading up to four resolution clauses, the third of which states that the House "rejects, in the strongest possible terms, any effort to remove, obscure, or purposely omit such history from our Nation's public buildings and educational resources."
"House Resolution 888 is perhaps the most disgraceful, shocking and tragic example yet of the pernicious and pervasive pattern and practice of the uncons utional rape of our bedrock American citizens' religious freedoms by the fundamentalist Christian right," says Michael "Mikey" Weinstein, head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation and a former White House counsel for President Reagan.
The resolution may never work its way out of committee, and even if it does, it may never be passed. But it is important because it expresses an increasingly influential ideology. It underlies the ideological appeal of the Huckabee campaign, however adroitly the Republican candidate dodges these issues when speaking to the general public. "I hope we answer the alarm clock and take this nation back for Christ," Huckabee told a Baptist convention in 1998. He assured the crowd that he had not entered politics "because I thought government had a better answer. I got into politics because I knew government didn't have the real answers, that the real answers lie in accepting Jesus Christ into our lives." And this ideology, as illustrated by Mitt Romney's coded appeal to Christian fundamentalists when giving his recent Texas speech on faith, or even John McCain's humbling trip to Liberty University, has a powerful pull on Republican candidates.
I saw a persistent rewriting of history in numerous Christian history textbooks, used by hundreds of thousands of children, when I wrote American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America. The revisionists take a minor historical event -- in the case of the missionaries, drawing from very rare decisions to provide funds for mission schools or the building of a church on Indian lands -- and use it to create a false portrait of a Christian nation. The resolution asserts that the Fourth of July was designed as a Christian holiday, and that in 1977 Congress authorized that Bibles be "printed under their care" and imported for dissemination to the American public. Congress never imported Bibles. But facts matter little.
It is a mistake, despite the seeming implosion of the Republican Party, to count these people out. The Christian radicals have, as the Huckabee candidacy illustrates, broken free from the fetters of their corporate and neocon handlers. They have unleashed a frightening populism that, in the event of an economic meltdown or period of instability, could see the movement ride the wave of a massive right-wing backlash. So when you get tired of the cute sound bites that cons ute most coverage of these campaigns, pull out this resolution to remind yourself that we are playing with dynamite, that unless we begin to re-enfranchise tens of millions of Americans -- and this means economically -- back into the mainstream, unless we again give our workers the chance to earn a living wage, we will fail to blunt this movement and could well fall victim to it.
Chris Hedges, a Pulitzer prize-winning reporter, was the Middle East bureau chief for The New York Times. He spent seven years in the Middle East and reported frequently from Iran. His latest book is American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America.
© 2008 Independent Media Ins ute. All rights reserved.
View this story online at: http://www.alternet.org/story/73778/
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And then there is this bull :
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0070111-2.html
Coming from "Christian" dubya, you just know the "freedom" is meant as freedom to teach creationism, Bible tales, exclusivly Christianity (no Muslim/Koran, Catholic, Jewish, Hindu stuff) in public schools.
Hey, Osama, err boutons, I don't see you ing about Osama and his crew wanting us all to either become Muslims or die.
This is a weird news story, but let's see it play out in Congress before you go PMSing about it. , I think you hate America more than Dan.
OBL is forgotten, by dubya, by everybody, no threat to USA. He suckered dubya onto OBL's killing fields, Mission Accomplished.
dubya, head, neo- s, Christian supremacists are a much greater, more sinister threat to USA than OBL and terrorists.
Exactly. People will about anything.
gots? interesting how you project your sexual preferences into 888 which doesn't mention gots.
You chicken bubbas too scared to go beat up gots by yourself and want Christian supremacists to do it for you?
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