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Bown on Allen for a potential 7 games.
That'd be great T.V.
Epic Indeed.
Not all Spurs fans, but I'm not just talking about the perception of Spurs fans. It's general sentiment by many if not most NBA analysts, sports writers, and the majority of fans of other teams that the Pistons have actually over-achieved. Every year since the championship is supposed to be the year the Pistons show their decline.
As for what Flip inherited, what happened to Frank Lawrence who inherited a New Jersey team that went to two straight NBA Finals? Actually inheriting a great team with past success and continuing that success could be argued to be tougher than inheriting a bad team and making that team good. I'm not defending Flip Saunders as a great coach. I don't believe he is. But, he could have easily done a worse job these past two seasons.
And, why can't the Pistons lose to the Cavs in a playoff series, especially with the way LeBron played in most of the games and the surprise of Daniel Gibson's shooting? If the Spurs were just better than the Pistons in 2005 and the Heat just played better in 2006, then only last year did the Pistons lose a series they should have won in the last three years. Very good teams are capable of losing playoff series they should win every now and then. Spurs against the Lakers in 2004? Spurs against Dallas in 2006? You can put part of the blame on Flip. But, he was not the only reason the Pistons lost either of the last two ECF series.
Again, that perception of "under-achievement" should be tempered with the fact that a great deal of people feel like the Pistons really aren't that good anyway and have "over-achieved" the last four seasons.
As for it being easy to get out of the Eastern Conference. While the Spurs are a great team, the Eastern Conference have won two of the last four NBA les. It's not like the West is the automatic champion year after year for a long time.
Bown on Allen for a potential 7 games.
That'd be great T.V.
Epic Indeed.
I can see where all this can go if it is Spurs vs. Celtics:
1. Spurs (got Duncan in Lottery...leads to 4 les); Boston (loses out on Duncan)
2. Duncan vs. KG.....who truly is the better PF now that they have a supporting cast
3. Spurs (attempting to become a current Dynasty); Boston ( old dynasty)
4. Big Market vs. Little Market
5. NBA Superstars Galore.....
6. Spurs going for a 5th NBA le....Paul, KG, Allen....going for their 1st
7. Actors Galore in attendance....
And many, many more...
flip saunders has trouble developing a defensive strategy against a one-man show team. game 5 last year, he failed to double-team bronbron in which james then proceeded to beat his man time and time again. then in game 6, it was double team all the way, which enabled bronbron to figure out who was open. i do hope he learned his lessons from that series and exact revenge on the cavs in the playoffs this year.
i would love to see the spurs-celtics finals if only to finally put an end on the duncan-garnett argument. garnett supporters has always argued that if garnett had the same support that duncan has had, he would have won more championship than duncan. well now he has that support. if the spurs win, that'll be the end of that. but if garnett wins, who knows how long that argument will last? spurs in 6.
pistons-spurs rematch has long been overdue. i still feel the spurs didn't beat the pistons in '05. the spurs outlasted the pistons. both teams have the same team philosophy when it comes to sharing the ball and putting an emphasis on defense.
but whatever happens, please, please don't let the cavs back in the finals. argh.
Pop is going to eat Doc's lunch if they meet in the finals, and I hope they do. If for no other reason than it'll be fun to watch.
The last championship showed just how great a coach Pop is. Look at the way Bron wrecked the Pistons, then see the defensive schemes the Spurs threw at him in the finals. It was brilliance. It wasn't just Bruce, as good a defender as he is, no one man can shut down Lebron like that, it was a total team commitment to a defensive strategy. I can understand why the causal fans lost interest. But it was beutiful from a Spurs fans perspective.
It's not just Timmy vs KG...no
The most interesting matchups will be our defensive specialists vs Allen and Pearce; who will Bruce Bowen guard the most? Will Pop throw Udoka in there ?
Wow, Bruce vs his buddy Ray Allen; it's gonna be interesting.
Bruce would be on Pierce. No point wasting him on Ray Allen, who would only shoot 40% anyways.
I agree. I don't think Boston gets by Detroit in a 7-game series, unless of course, Detroit implodes like they did last year agains the Cavs. That was inexcusable and incomprehensible.
Billups will definitely destroy Rondo.
Boston is a of a lot better than everyone is giving them credit for. They are a scary good team and they will come out of the East easily IMHO barring injury. Spurs' fans should certainly not take them lightly just because Garnett, Allen, and Pierce haven't won anything individually.
Problem is bowen can't guard pierce......
It wouldn't be a 'fair' matchup. Boston is going to waltz through the East and Spurs will likely have a much tougher time in a tougher conference.
Last year you played a ty orlando team, and a stupid Bulls team that easily could have pushed you 7 if it wasnt for them giving game 3 away. Then you were very fortunate the Cavs ed up the first 2 games of the ECF or you would have been swept or beaten in 5 games. I wasnt impressed at all with the Pistons last season as it was fools gold they made it that far.
Again as long as the Celts stay healthy, they are winning the east. Your Pistons could make the ECF to wish us luck in the finals like you have done the past 2 years.
Pistons were lucky a 1 man team didnt sweep them last year. Their chances decline facing 3 stars and an underrated bench. Stop making excuses for a team who you like to kiss ass to. This circle jerk is quite pathetic.
Newsflash Piston ass kisser...These arent the same Pistons anymore. They will make the ECF if they get fortunate enough and wish the next team (which will be Boston as long as they are healthy) good luck in the finals. It is a new yearly tradition for the Pistons.
That sounds good by itself, but he took a team that WON the conference Finals the previous two years and promptly got them not as far.
2006 maybe you can give him, except that the Pistons were felt to be the best team in the league all year until they lost to Miami.
2007 was an unforgiveable choke of historic proportions. Especially given the massive egg Cleveland promptly laid in the Finals.
That wasnt a choke job. They were outplayed that ENTIRE series. Cavs ups missing point blake shots late in the games is the only reason that series went 6.
They were in the Finals? Against us?
actually it's a great question. now that KG has help this year will show if duncan really was/is better than garnett.
I think containing Pierce will be key. TD vs KG and Bowen vs Allen seem a given, but who will tackle Pierce. Will Udoka be able to handle Allen leaving Bowen to guard Pierce?
On the other hand, the Celts will have their hands full dealing with Parker and Manu. Bench and experience definite Spurs advantage. Same advantage for Spurs in Coaching Dept.
The intangibles will be very important. Emotionally, Boston fans will be so keyed up and this could energize the Celts, specially the lesser players. Stranger things have happened specially in the Playoffs. I don't think this will faze the Spurs though. Spurs in 6.
Not exactly. Garnett now has 2 superstars on his team, and he plays in the Eastern conference. Duncan has... well... himself and 2 very good players, and plays in the West.
Let us also not forget Elson has gotten into KG's head many a time in the past, while playing for the Nuggets. I believe they might have actually thrown at eachother before. In any case, Elson usually plays well against Garnett. They have similar styles.
And coaching had nothing to do with being outplayed like that?
I'd love that series from a compe ive standpoint.
And it'd prove if anyone still has any doubts who the superior PF is, since years went by with "Kg doesn't have the supporting cast or else..." drivel
The Pistons were outplayed in game 6.
The first five games were all decided in the final minute by 6 points or less and could have gone either way, four of those games decided by 4 points or less.
Pistons should have won that series. I give at least as much credit to LeBron for his individual performances and Daniel Gibson coming out of nowhere to shoot lights out in two of those victories, including the series clinching game 6.
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