They should just give everyone the option to use or not and then just let it be. Records dont really mean anyways so who cares.
I wouldn't say that he "defends McGwire" at all.
Although he may have taken it easier on him that some of the other guys in there despite that the evidence against McGwire is one of the strongest (invoking the 5th amendment is only necessary for one reason).
that is messed up.
Bagwell's name also appeared on it and I'm really, really glad to see he's not mentioned in Mitc 's report...
I don't see anywhere in the report that he says McGwire took HGH or steriods. He says he took andro and creatine.
"In 1988, androstenedione became the subject of national attention after a reporter
observed a container of the supplement in the locker of Mark McGwire of the St. Louis
Cardinals during his pursuit of the single-season home run record.70 The ability to purchase the substance over-the-counter became a subject of intense discussion"
"Androstenedione is a steroid hormone produced in the body, where it is converted
into testosterone.232 In 1998, “andro” was sold in the United States as a dietary supplement and was available without a prescription. The use of andro was not illegal in the United States, nor was it a prohibited substance under baseball’s drug policy at the time."
"When Mark McGwire first was asked about the bottle of androstenedione in his
locker, he is reported to have admitted using it, as well as the over-the-counter amino acid supplement creatine, to assist his workout regimen.237 McGwire was quoted as having said: “Everything I’ve done is natural. Everybody that I know in the game of baseball uses the same stuff I use.”238 He also reportedly stated that “[i]f somebody tells me that it’s illegal and I shouldn’t be taking it, I will stop.”"
"The public comments from others in baseball generally supported McGwire, with players noting that andro was legal and not prohibited in Major League Baseball and observing that McGwire always had been a power hitter and that strength alone could not account for his home run hitting prowess."
"The Cardinals organization issued a
statement that the club did not object to McGwire’s use of the supplement because it had “no proven anabolic effects nor significant side effects.”242 Commissioner Selig told me that he was not aware of andro before the AP story was published, but shortly thereafter he visited his local pharmacy in Milwaukee where the pharmacist directed him to the bottles of the substance that were openly for sale on the shelves."
If McGwire didn't use roids, im ok with that but why all the evasiveness in front of congress? Why not just say "I didn't do it"?
Only two with one being a no name scrub?
APOLOGY ACCEPTED.
McGwire probably poured more roids into his veins than the rest of the list combined.
I agree which is why I find it odd that he is not on that list and is just "mentioned"
Omission isn't defense. But he does talk about Canseco's accusation of McGwire, which is what he uses to link many players to the ordeal.
However, as I said, he went rather easy on him considering that McGwire's statements to Congress were basically an admission (although not in the legal sense).
So far there hasn't been a Radomski or McNamee in his past that's given him up to the feds.
Whatever Big Mac may have done, aside from the andro, he did it quietly.
the list isn't all inclusive, but probably contains names where there is irrefutable evidence to avoid a defemation of character lawsuit.
That is what I am thinking and no one in the Cards organization would give him up.
this is one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen.
-Mars
Yes it does. And it also talks about how it became obvious that Jose was juicing and saying everyone else was to lessen their accomplishments.
Sorry, it flat out says McGwire only took andro and it was legal, even over-the-counter. They rat out much bigger names than Big Mac, so it leads one to believe if they had something else on him they would give it up. They don't.
Then why is it that thru all of the allegations in Oakland, that the only person that did give him up was Canseco, who admittedly lied about many things, and everyone else that surfaced has been proven.
Sometimes things really are how they seem. Not often, but sometimes.
It absolutely does not. It only talks about his andro, but it never once says that he "ONLY took Andro."
Besides, as has been indicated before, Mac has already taken the 5th regarding steroids. And there is only one legitimate reason to do that. It's just as strong, if not stronger, than the evidence against Bonds.
Who did Canseco admittedly lie about? So far he's been proven right every time.
McGwire's testimony before Congress effectively removed any doubt that he used steroids.
dear god...
besides srub hairston. and matthews jr it looks like the rangers have been pretty clean.
gagne and rocker are obvious and i think gagne probably used before he came to texas to help heal his injury. palmeiro has taken his crap. other than that....
way to do it with class Texas Rangers!
Last edited by dallaskd; 12-13-2007 at 08:21 PM.
dammit pudge. you!
god dammit SAMMY AND EVERETT!
!
hes on there too dumb
my respect level for A-rod just shot up.
Where the do you see Bagwell and Pudge?
Here is the list on ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153646
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