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As well as Barry's playing this year, I'd hate to see us let him go for nothing. I wonder if we couldn't sign and trade him to some team looking for a canny vet with a great shot.
Barry - O J Mayo?Barry - Azubuike? Jones? Barnes? Bonzi?
Elson - Mahinmi/Splitter
As well as Barry's playing this year, I'd hate to see us let him go for nothing. I wonder if we couldn't sign and trade him to some team looking for a canny vet with a great shot.
Richardson worked out with Kaniel ens, Marcus Williams, Demarr Johnson, Keith Langford at Spurs facility on Sunday.
Richardson takes crazy stupid shots and will shoot it 5 of 6 times he touches it. I read stats from a game or so ago where he was 12/30 from the field. I can see that.
Link? The original article said he left Saturday. If he left on Saturday then how did he workout in San Antonio on Sunday?
It's possible Davison was spreading a little disinformation for the Spurs, The Ants don't play again until Thursday, and ens could conceivably travel with the Toros for their game in Broomfield tomorrow. so anything is possible.
Interesting if true -- the Spurs worked out five swingmen from three different D-League teams. Or at least they hosted the workout.
If that really is the case then I wonder why Justin Bowen wan't included?
He is coming off an ankle injury and if his pt is any indication, the Spurs aren't as high on him as the others. He's definitely not a scorer like the players listed.
It's obvious I like him more than just about anyone, but I'm pretty confident he can do a lot to fill a void left by a Williams or Johnson call-up.
What are your thoughts on the five players listed as far as NBA potential, or more importantly....Spurs potential?
Thats a good point to make. The emphasis in these workouts (assuming they are legit) is on scorers and not necessarily the "long 3" or "Bowen-replacements". The guys they're looking at are more likely to be a Finley or Barry replacement. Shooters. Floor stretchers. Of course, if they could get another scorer AND a small ball PF in one package then I'm sure they wouldn't object. Versatility is the name of the game these days afterall.
DerMarr - Known quan y, almost a three point specialist now. Decent defense, lots of deflections. Historically poor rebounder but showing a little improvement -- will have to see if it's a trend. Hardly any blocks this season.
ens - Kind of similar to DerMarr. Can be a streaky shooter from game to game, but leads the D-League in both 3pt attempts and makes with a percentage of .492 from the arc. Plays on a team with a strong post presence. Poor rebounder for his size and athleticism. Ok defender that actually blocks shots from time to time.
Richardson - Nice athlete with good midrange and 3pt shooting. Greatly improved rebounding so far this season. Still skinny as , but gives effort on D.
Williams - still a tough guy to figure out. Can play positions 2-4 in the D-League depending on matchups, but what is he going to do in the NBA? Bad at the arc, but not too bad 16ft and closer. Really good transition passing and finishing. Good inbounder. Not a super man defender, but plays the lanes well and starting to get the rotations.
Langford - Relentless scorer, gets more points attacking the basket than hitting the long ball, but his jumper must be respected by defenses. Strangely crappy from the free throw line. Lack of size hurts him as a swingman, but his decent handling and passing gives him combo guard potential unique in this group.
For the perceived needs of this team right now as well as potential upside, I like Richardson the best, but I can see why each player was worked out.
Thanks for the insight
tomcat had good inside info in the past. Thanks for this current scoop
The Spurs are always looking at players but this is a lot of players to be looking at in a short amount of time. Makes me think something is in the works . . .
Who do you think is susceptible of getting moved?tomcat had good inside info in the past. Thanks for this current scoop
The Spurs are always looking at players but this is a lot of players to be looking at in a short amount of time. Makes me think something is in the works . . .
Is it a small contract like Washington, or a bigger contract like Elson/Bonner?
If these guys are all shooters, then maybe something in the works to trade one of our shooters? Barry? Bonner?tomcat had good inside info in the past. Thanks for this current scoop
The Spurs are always looking at players but this is a lot of players to be looking at in a short amount of time. Makes me think something is in the works . . .
(don't teams sometimes DNP players who they want to trade for fear they might get hurt. Bonner?)
Right after "showcasing" them....to the tune of 25pts and 17rebs.
RUMOR ALERT RUMOR ALERT RUMOR ALERT RUMOR ALERT
Of course it could be nothing....
If any one player is going to get traded off the Spurs I have to think it's Elson. The guy is flat horrible. Bonner would probably be my second guess, however. If they could move Elson for another post player with a smaller contract then they might free up enough cash for a cheap contract to be worthwhile.
I'm not totally convinced this is for a trade, though a player would have to be pretty special to sell the owners on breaking the tax threshold again.
I'd have to go with Bonner. While I agree that Elson is a worse player, Bonner has a long-term contract that extends out two years beyond this one. There is always the hope that he "gets it" defensively, but the Spurs have seen minimal returns to that end up to this point.
Elson sucks, but he's only guaranteed to be on this team for one more year.
It could just be the Spurs evaluating their options should a trade opportunity present itself.
It's just fun to speculate....
TimVP is right about these cir stances...su ious.
My guess is that Bonner may be in play. The question is this, would the Spurs be getting back a cheaper player and signing, say, Richardson for the remaining balance of Bonner's number or would they simply trade Bonner for cash and future considerations...
In his limited minutes, Horry's defense has moved me from luke warm to cold on Bonner. On balance, I don't think he is worth what we pay him, especially given Mahinmi and Splitter needing minutes next season.
I think the Spurs might finally be showing a sense of urgency in terms of finding Bowen's heir apparent. Udoka has looked shaky early, Williams is not going to work out, Finley is plain bad on some nights, Barry's defense is never reliable, etc...if they bring in some one like Richardson now, they can sign him, d-league him, teach him the system, and possible work him into the rotation by this time next year. If he doesn't work out, fine.
It's also very clear that Spurs are taking the Toros very seriously, obviosuly looking for deliberate ways to bolster the big league roster through their affiliate. Between this and Europe, the Spurs should be just fine.
All this makes me think that next year's team will be quite a bit younger and more athletic. Having a few low pay guys like Splitter, Mahinimi, Washington and Richardson on payroll could allow the Spurs to sign a more established free agent, as well.
There are some troubling facts :
- Bonner didn't play against Denver. Even during the garbage time and when Elson was injured, Pop put Oberto back in the game instead of Bonner.
- Today is the first day where Bonner can be traded.
- This workout.
Something could be in the works.
Saying that, it's still 5pm ET and nothing has happened. The most likely case is that Bonner hasn't played for whatever reason (a minor injury, pop wanting to send him a message...) and that this workout is done with the only goal to know better some players who could sign with Spurs (either later this year or this summer).
Who in the world would want Bonner, in all seriousness? Does he fill a role for a team in need?
Isn't Charlotte in dire need of players over 6'8"? Anyone over 6'8"?
That is exactly why Elson is more likely to be traded: he has an expiring deal, which always has value. Unless a team is seriously in love with Bonner, they're likely to require us to either take another bad contract in return or deal draft picks or something otherwise valuable. Elson can be dealt to simply offer another team cap relief.
Well, they just traded for Nazr Mohammed...so that should "technically" bolster their frontline. But in the process they lost two guys over that 6'8 line in Hermann and Brezec. So, they might have interest in either Elson or Bonner.
After the Melvin Ely trade last year it would seem that we have at least an amicable relationship with the staff out there. And GM Michael Jordan is definitely the guy you want to deal with...hes a dumbass.
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