You do realize that at this time your grandma can cover better than Taylor? If the want to give him an honorary nod then I'm all for that, but I don't think he should get a spot that keeps someone else off.
Nice.
Nobody's going to get knocked off. He would get recognized as being [at least] the best safety in the NFC for 10 games this year (players have made the pro bowl playing less games).
Officially, he'd be on the team, but his spot would go to the next guy. Just like if he were injured.
No doubt Taylor was a stud and would have been named to the Pro Bowl for years, but no man is more responsible for the rise and fall of his team's defense than Bob Sanders. The Colts had an embarrassing defense last year, and this year they are ranked third overall. The difference? Sanders has missed only one game this year instead of twelve.
If you are looking purely at stats, Mario Williams should be chosen before those two. Allen has 5 more tackles than Williams, but Mario has 1.5 more sacks and a fumble recovery and TD on his stat line. He also has 3 more sacks and 5 more tackles than Taylor.
That's certainly true, and would make a strong argument for him for defensive MVP.
But, just because the Washington defense has players who have picked up the slack since Taylor has gone while the Colts defense folds without Sanders is not necessarily indicative of which player is better at their position.
As I said, it's a personal preference, you couldn't have gone wrong with either one.
If you want to get technical about it, they didn't even really play the same position. Sanders is your quintessential strong safety, coming up and providing great run support and laying out WRs on the underneath routes. Taylor was the dominant free safety, playing centerfield and running the deep routes with WRs better than most corners could do so.
I factor stats in of course, but I could care less about 1.5 sacks more. Allen is a stud and has 16 more solo tackles than Williams. I really like the way the guy plays. Taylor may have 3 less sacks than Williams, but he also has an INT returned for a TD, 5 pass deflections as a DE, and 4 forced fumbles, 3 of which were recoved. The man gets it done and is a stud also. I just have Williams behind these 2. , actually I think I like Taylor more than Allen now, lol.
Yeah, we'll just keep going in circles if we continue to talk about this. They wouldn't have even been competing against each other for a Pro Bowl selection anyway.
2008 Pro Bowl Rosters
NFC Starters
Offense
QB - Brett Favre, GB
RB - Adrian Peterson, MIN
FB - Tony Richardson, MIN
WR - Larry Fitzgerald, ARI
WR - Terrell Owens, DAL
TE - Jason Witten, DAL
OT - Flozell Adams, DAL
OT - Walter Jones, SEA
G - Leonard Davis, DAL
G - Steve Hutchinson, MIN
C - Andre Gurode, DAL
Defense
DE - Aaron Kampman, GB
DE - Patrick Kerney, SEA
DT - Kevin Williams, MIN
DT - Pat Williams, MIN
OLB - Julian Peterson, SEA
OLB - DeMarcus Ware, DAL
ILB - Lofa Tatupu, SEA
CB - Al Harris, GB
CB - Marcus Trufant, SEA
FS - Sean Taylor, WAS
SS - Darren Sharper, MIN
Special Teams
P - Andy Lee, SF
K - Nick Folk, DAL
KR - Devin Hester, CHI
ST - Brendon Ayanbadejo, CHI
Reserves
QB - Matt Hasselbeck, SEA
QB - Tony Romo, DAL
RB - Brian Westbrook, PHI
RB - Marion Barber, DAL
WR - Donald Driver, GB
WR - Torry Holt, STL
TE - Chris Cooley, WAS
OT - Chris Samuels, WAS
G - Shawn Andrews, PHI
C - Matt Birk, MIN
DE - Osi Umenyiora, NYG
DT - Tommie Harris, CHI
ILB - Patrick Willis, SF
CB - Terrence Newman, DAL
FS - Ken Hamlin, DAL
AFC Starters
Offense
QB - Tom Brady, NWE
RB - LaDanian Tomlinson, SD
FB - Lorenzo Neal, SD
WR - Randy Moss, NWE
WR - Reggie Wayne, IND
TE - Antonio Gates, SD
OT - Matt Light, NWE
OT - Jason Peters, BUF
G - Alan Faneca, PIT
G - Logan Mankins, NWE
C - Jeff Saturday, IND
Defense
DE - Jared Allen, KC
DE - Kyle Vanden Bosch, TEN
DT - Albert Hayensworth, TEN
DT - Vince Wilfork, NWE
OLB - James Harrison, PIT
OLB - Mike Vrable, NWE
ILB - DeMeco Ryans, HOU
CB - Champ Bailey, DEN
CB - Asante Samuel, NWE
FS - Ed Reed, BAL
SS - Bob Sanders, IND
Special Teams
P - Shane Lechler, OAK
K - Rob Bironas, TEN
KR - Josh Cribbs, CLE
ST - Kassim Osgood, SD
Reserves
QB - Peyton Manning, IND
QB - Ben Roethlisberger, PIT
RB - Joseph Addai, IND
RB - Willie Parker, PIT
WR - Braylon Edwards, CLE
WR - T.J. Houshmandzadeh, CIN
TE - Tony Gonzalez, KC
OT - Jonathan Ogden, BAL
G - Kris Dielman, SD
C - Dan Koppen, NWE
DE - Jason Taylor, MIA
DT - Jamal Williams, SD
OLB - Shawn Merriman, SD
ILB - Ray Lewis, BAL
CB - Antonio Cromartie, SD
SS - Troy Polamalu, PIT
Last edited by J.T.; 12-19-2007 at 04:14 AM.
11 Cowboys, nice.
no Mario, lol
How did Driver make it over Jennings?
I also thought Tanard Jackson had a better year than Hamlin.
Happy that no Lions made it as none of them deserved it.
Driver got in on reputation, and does draw coverage his way which helps Jennings. But on stats alone, Jennings should of got in. It depends on the voter I guess.
With all those Patriots... the score will be 150 AFC, 14 NFC
Brady to Moss for 700 yards, 10 TDs
poor mario...and favre, START ROMO!!
All in all pretty decent Pro Bowl selections this year. Peyton and Jeff are perennials but Super Reggie, Addai and Sanders have had great years and really deserved it. Only Colt that I think should have made it and didn't is Gary Brackett but I see why he was snubbed.
yea a lot more vikings than i expected
No Wes Welker.
I guess the fact that you yell "you ing suck!" at opponent's DBs when they miss a tackle on you being publicized will cost you some Pro Bowl votes.
well if you can't tackle wes welker than you really must " ing suck"
I agree completely. I still personally think that Ed Reed and Brian Dawkins are better all-around safeties, but no one is more important to their team's success than Bob Sanders.
Welker has had a good year, but no different than the year Mike Furrey had last year.
Neither deserved to go to the PB.
Dawkins isn't as good in run support as he used to be and Ed Reed - while still capable of making big plays - saw an all around drop-off in his game this year (it'll take the media about 3 years to catch on though...).
by the time the pro bowl rolls around the teams will look completely different
No way Tommie Harris should have gotten in. Should have been either Mike Patterson from Philly or Jovan Haye from Tampa.
How does Umenyoria get in?
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