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I make on average about 5 posts in here every six months while boutons makes about 20=-30 a week and you call me out?
That angers me...
I'd insult your opinion...if you had any relevant ones.
Sounds like they did, and yet you are still ing. What a shocker.
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I make on average about 5 posts in here every six months while boutons makes about 20=-30 a week and you call me out?
That angers me...
I'd insult your opinion...if you had any relevant ones.
You think you agree with me...but you really don't.
See I know a government will never be trustworthy...which is why I immediately brand anyone that thinks they can be, as an idiot(read anyone who favors socialism).
Right............ That's why you support us "giving" democracy to the Iraqi's. I bet they love "democracy" now, seeing as how things over there are so much better than they were under Saddam. It's funny the government can never be trustworthy, but when they use clearly falsified and made up evidence to invade and literally lay a sovereign country to waste it's ok to trust that action cause you know those Muslims come here to kill us cause we are free. Except everyone forgets they aren't really free cause if Uncle Sam doesn't get his money you go to jail. Now that's free!
You ever thought about that one? Prison time for those who don't pay taxes, seem just? Does that seem free to you? Those who can't afford to pay taxes, not just the ones who don't want to pay, it's prison time for them too.
Give me your address and I'll send you a book, so you can educate yourself. It's called "On Liberty" by John Stuart Mill. Trust me you'd learn a lot from this book.
I am a Black Nationalist so if you think I trust the government in any way shape or form then you must not know what a Black Nationalist is. I am all for Black Sepratism as I see that as the only way that we will ever get ahead not by the government playing daddy/plantation owner.
Spawn, getting ahead can only be achieved if government was made to get out of the way. It is your right if you so choose to be segregated from "white society" I personally do not agree with your views, but as I see it the Federal government has no binding on the morality of whatever law your local municipality may want to enact. Of course assuming it does not infringe on the inalienable rights of individuals within your municipality.
Do you agree or disagree with this view?
You think a Black Nationalist Government is trustworthy...that makes you even more naive. Same issue...only about color. Any type of separatist government is usually going to be rife with corruption, injustice and oppression...history shows this to be true. In the case of separatist movements...lots of anger to be tapped into there, and anger is the most easily manipulated emotion for a skillful manipulator and usually to the absolute worst ends.
Oh...and the worst are the guys that claim to speak to the poor...how often does that work out...take a look around the world and show me the examples of that working out. Usually those guys go and take the money from the wealthy, take the individual drive away, the inventors, the entrepreneurs, run them off even...or kill them, and the country begins a slow decline.
No...I'll stick to the shallow ego driven guy that just wants to say he got to sit in the whitehouse and has movtivations I can see and understand, simple success goals, amke some money on the side, have a halfway decent legacy etc.....that's what I trust....more or less. Not because I don't think he's corrupt...it's just a less dangerous form of corruption.
Pretty much anyone that aspires to leadership and power is corrupt to begin with...in some way....it's just a matter of how badly is that corruption going to affect your way of life.
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And BTW...the guys really scare the crap out of me are the ones that think all other governments besides the US are trustworthy... the biggest difference between us and them is our dirty laundry gets drug out on the world stage.
As opposed to blowing the ouf their country and then saying...ooops, our bad?
If I come in and destroy your ing house, and then say well...good luck cleaning up that mess.
What would you think of me?
I bet they love "democracy" now, seeing as how things over there are so much better than they were under Saddam.
It's a ing war numbskull...why in the would you expect the living conditions to be better at this particular time?
Do you have a list of other wars in which living conditions were improved during the time of war? IF you do...please provide it, then we can just this war a success or a failure...
Sheeesh. It's like you guys are missing a chromosome or something.
Hate to tell you this bud...we were not in a state of peace with Iraq...we were in a state of cease fire, and Saddam was in violation of that cease fire.It's funny the government can never be trustworthy, but when they use clearly falsified and made up evidence to invade and literally lay a sovereign country to waste it's ok to trust that action
As for the WMD...
Saddam should have thought of that before kicking the weapons inspectors out.
Have nots always hate the havs....especially when they have inept leaders that direct that anger towards the havs.cause you know those Muslims come here to kill us cause we are free.
Except everyone forgets they aren't really free cause if Uncle Sam doesn't get his money you go to jail. Now that's free!
You ever thought about that one? Prison time for those who don't pay taxes, seem just? Does that seem free to you? Those who can't afford to pay taxes, not just the ones who don't want to pay, it's prison time for them too.
Give me your address and I'll send you a book, so you can educate yourself. It's called "On Liberty" by John Stuart Mill. Trust me you'd learn a lot from this book.
Just out of curiosity....how many people do you know that have been jailed for tax evasion?
Have you even paid them yet in your lifetime?
You've got that young and idealistic vibe about you....I'm betting you haven't paid many.
Taxes...BFD....not the bigget issue to me....
Imagine...behind all your idealism...simple greed....how Iraqwarishneoconish of you.
Bottomline...I don't care why we went into Iraq...
Can this war ultimately serve our goals in that region...of better living conditions and human rights?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Is pulling out incredibly irresponsible?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Is there a track record of things getting much much worse after a major pullout of an invasion force like this?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
You know what happens if we pull out when you guys wanted to pull out too early?
Mass politically motivated homicide...probably genocide...
And you know what they'll be saying? It was better when the Americans were here...
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I didn't say anything about a Black Nationalist Government. Blacks in America should remain in America, and live under its laws. I am advocating the the seperation of Blacks from the predominant White society as this is still a White man's country, and White man's rules, and us fighting for inclusion in the White man's world is not the right way to go about things. We need to look out for ourselves, educate our own children, build and repair our own image, (as the White media has screwed that up) have our own busineses etc., and for the government to leave us the alone and stop trying to "fix" things because it only compounds the problem. The only thing I look for in the government is to protect my basic Human Rights.
Right now Blacks don't have a leg to stand on as we are too dependant on others to employ us, to educate us etc. Blacks when we were segregated knew that they weren't going to be getting any favors from the government or anyone else and we built our own societies within America and the Black economy was booming. Integration screwed everything up. Integration has been the downfall of Blacks in this country, because it happened way too soon.
The government just needs to know that they cannot fix the race problem here in America so stop trying and leave us to our own devices. Just protect my basic Human Rights.
A link to what? You ing? Just search for your handle and pages of proof will be upon you.
I call boutons out too, if it makes you feel any better. You aren't as big of a re as him if that helps. You are better spoken, but still moronic. Sorry, did I anger you again?
White people, circle the wagons!
This thread needs a correction.
Russell Means just seceded from the United States, not the Lakota Sioux.
So they're backing out of their treaty. Who the cares? The Seminole tribe flat refused to sign a formal piece treaty with the United States a long time ago, and still haven't to this day.A delegation of Lakota leaders delivered a message to the State Department on Monday, announcing they were unilaterally withdrawing from treaties they signed with the federal government of the United States, some of them more than 150 years old.
Why not just ignore them...you know, like smart people do when they don't want to read something?
Do you just like to , or what?
I call boutons out too, if it makes you feel any better. You aren't as big of a re as him if that helps. You are better spoken, but still moronic. Sorry, did I anger you again?
What will make me feel better is your biannual posting on the innerworkings of the Oil Industry...it's like that keeps this board going
What I don't understand is why they're seceding at all. Just continue putting up casinos and herding stupid white people through, and soon they'll be able to BUY the U.S.A.
thanks for the map, B.
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