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No Need No Thugs On This Team
You're right about that.He does demand the ball on O and that type of selfishness won't set well with Pop.
Anyway there seems to be little if any chance of this happening since I don't see Pop giving up any of the Big 3 in order to get him and Sac would want one of them in order for a trade to happen.
No Need No Thugs On This Team
If we could get Artest for cheap I'd do it in a heart beat because I'm of the opinion that (1) being around Tim, Tony, Manu and under Pop gives players a different mentality and mindset and they become better team mates. Since Pop has been here, players have inevitably always bought into the system and the Spurs way of doing things almost by osmosis, or (2) one mis-step and Pop will have his ass down at the greyhound bus terminal faster then he could run into the stands.
The guy is a player and make no mistake he would take the Spurs to the next level provided he keeps his head on right. I'm fairly confident that Pop and Tim would do just that without distraction. But, getting him cheap is probably never going to happen so.......never mind.
Pop actually encourages his "shooters" to be aggressive with their shot on offense.You're right about that.
To compare, Finley takes roughly 10 shots in just over 25MPG on average, while Artest takes roughly 15 shots in just over 40MPG on average. It should also be noted that Artest is clearly the second option on that team behind Kevin Martin.
A final point why Artest would do well is that he actually converts fairly often when he shoots (44% to Finley's 37%)
Obviously the chemical imbalance and Sacto's asking price will keep this from ever happening....but I'm of the opinion that it might actually work if it did happen.
I'd rather go after a player like Andre Igoudala....
Last edited by Phenomanul; 12-27-2007 at 02:20 PM.
Is Randy Moss a;
1) Thug
2) Cancer
3) Team Player
4) Loves to win
5) Makes others better
I believe in giving second chance
Bad comparison.
Randy Moss' problem has been a bad at ude. Ron Artest's problem is that he freaking nuts.
People who automatically assume that he would be fine surrounded by the big 3 are applying logic to an individual who doesn't go by logic. Now, maybe he would be fine, but you can't assume that and you never can be sure of what's going to set him off.
I'm down. Put provisions in contract.Artest:Spurs != Moss:Patriots
Look what Rodman did with the Bulls for those who say it can't be done.
The Spurs wont go after Artest, because we are the Spurs...not the Knicks.
If you don't understand that, you don't understand the Spurs. Go root for Dallas.
Considering Boston's lack of playoff experience together, the Spurs are probably the odds-on favorite to win the championship this year as presently cons uted. It's a deep team that's able to tread water ably during injuries. Why would we gut that team and throw in one of the most combustible characters in the game, who's making more money than he's worth and, if he doesn't work out, will keep costing us past this year?
Bad idea.
I don't think the Spurs are opposed to making a move, but if they do it will be a minor one that addresses a certain need, such as improving their ability to defend a big 3/mobile 4.
But they certainly won't risk team chemistry and unity for that.
Yes.
Didn't Robinson behave well for one year that he was with Spurs?
Didn't Stephan Jackson behave well when he was with Spurs?
If Artest does not behave well, we could trade him. He is underpaid for his talents. There are always takers for guys like Artest.
^^what he said
That'd look weird at the gear store - a row of silver&black road jerseys on the rack, with a big straightjacket in the middle.
I don't think Pop likes Artest...Artest is the only guy I've ever Pop be critical of in the media.
I wouldn't be in favor of aquiring Artest though...not because I think they couldn't control his at ude or because he's crazy...
I wouldn't trade for him because he's injury prone and he's got a habit of choking pretty badly in big playoff series.
Talent wise I'd love to have the dude...part of the reason he's such a great defensive player is because he isn't quite all there...he'd be a great fit on this team in terms talent...in fact pretty much just what we need....
But he is injury prone and suspension prone, lengthy suspension prone, and he does tend to choke...
I really don't think Pop likes him though...a few years ago when the Pacers were touting Artest as the DPOY and sending out press flyers to present his case...Pop pretty much ripped that whole idea to shreds and Artest along with it in the process.
No thanks.
No thugs, no gangsters, no ing nut jobs.
Keep him in Sacramento were he blends in with the other trash.
Randy moss doesn't make tom Brady betterIs Randy Moss a;
1) Thug
2) Cancer
3) Team Player
4) Loves to win
5) Makes others better
I believe in giving second chance
Randy moss is on his best behavior because this is his last chance to stick in the league.
Randy Moss is on his best behavior cause Bilicheat will kick his ass if he doesn't.
Stupid comparison.
Artest is a certifiable nut job who belongs no where near this team.
You want to root for nut jobs and cancers, go root for the Knicks.
You can't compare Moss to Artest.
When Moss succeeds the team is doing well (both want him catching touchdowns). If Artest succeeds, it means he's being selfish and jacking up stupid shots so he can get 30.
Different sports, different roles. A "me first" guy can ruin a basketball team more than it can a football team. , the Eagles made it to the Superbowl with Owens, who was supposed to be a "team cancer".
kevin martin = good contract
sacramento will ask for too much for artest.
lol.. what does SA have to offer? NOTHING! TD Manu and Parker will prolly be off the table... who else is left? NOBODY!
No thanks.
We' re fine.
yeah, i am tired of these wusses on this team... matt bonner, elson and finley for him.
stfu... Randy Moss is bad ass.
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