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He may be moving to LHW.
dumbass, idiot, re , head, bag, dog er,
He may be moving to LHW.
but I won't call names to the guy I owe something
ymm - I saw the highlights of the rampage lindland fight. Not much impresive.
All in all I would have to see the fighters in action to judge who is better and who worse. I saw not big sample cosideratning the UFC fighters which are on PPV. realy hard to find anything on the internet.
fedor is never going to fight rampage. get over it.
rampage would not win with fedor.
In what scenario rampage would have chances?
Fedor in nearly perfect on the ground while jackos have problems (in what I've seen)
First of all it's not going to happen. If for some odd reason Rampage left UFC and moved up from 205 to fight Fedor....
Fedor would pick him apart on the feet. Rampage could hope to get in a clinch and get a take down and ground and pound like he did to Henderson for a decision. If your trying to think of opponents to take down Fedor, your starting in the wrong place.
We sould be talking about this main event. The thred one.
I just saw the Rapage -shogun fight from 2005. Rampage got destroyed.
umm - all in all good to see some fights
Fedor Vs Rampage is not the right type of fight.
As we are here
What is the right type of fight?
To me it is important to find a way to win whoever you are matched up with.
Even fighting a guy who is more then a foot taller then you
Good niteee
There is not many good match ups for Fedor outside of the UFC HWs. You can throw him Barnett, Monson, Soszynski, Rothwell, his brother... Randy ?
Fedor isn't going to find much compe ion in his current situation. But it is one he chose.
Kharitonov, alistair overeem, ricco ?
Somebody in his weight class and is at least a top 20 fighter.
There certainly isn't a huge pool of top fighters for him to chose from but there are a few fights out there he can readily take to at least shut people who have been critical of his opponants for the last 3 years. I mean cmon…Choi? There isn't 50 people better for him to chose from? If someone with deep knowledge of international heavyweights had been asked to rank the top 50 heavyweights 2 months ago he would not have been on the list.
But rumor has it he is fighting Rizzo next around April and then his team can buy him time until December yapping about fighting Randy which will never happen.
Just to be clear though…my issue is more with his management team than Fedor. I am not sure he has any clue people are being critical of his fights. He is probably being told this is what people want to see. He can only fight who is in front of him and he has done so with perfection.
Somewhere deep down I am sure his compe ive fire is asking why such people are in front of him though...
Yarennoka “Return of Fedor”
Introduction of fighters (Rage Against the Machine…odd choice)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xVRpTQyOyr8
Fedor vs Hong-Man Choi
(mpg) - http://www.mediafire.com/?3dporsyoftb
(streaming) - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3w...arennoka_sport
Roman Zentsov vs Mike Russow
(streaming) - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3w...w-yarenn_sport
Misaki vs Akiyama
(avi) - http://www.mediafire.com/?d41lxyry1j8
(streaming) - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3w...kiyama-y_sport
Melendez vs Ishida
(avi) – http://www.sendspace.com/file/5a61im
streaming
Pt 1 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=uJU85NgOsGA
Pt 2 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=2PofS6vAeCo
Pt 3 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=1JqqUO7U184
Aoki vs Jung
Pt 1 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dt9ICsmUEmY
Pt 2 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=XamVDSaQG5E
Makoto Takimoto vs Murilo Bustamante
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3x...-takimot_sport
Haven’t seen these 2 online yet…can search dailymotion and/or youtube if you want to look for them later.
Hayato Sakurai vs Hidehiko Hasegawa
Tatsuya Kawajiri vs Luiz Azeredo
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K-1 Dynamite
Kid vs Yahya
(avi) - http://www.mediafire.com/?d2nvbnne9gh
(streaming) - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3w...k1-dynam_sport
Joachim Hansen vs Kazuyuki Miyata
(avi) – http://www.mediafire.com/?6ie2nce1tgp
Sakuraba vs Funaki
http://www.dailymotion.com/bawzz/vid...ite-2007_sport
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3w...su-funak_sport
Bob Sapp vs Bobby Ologun
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3w...-dynamit_sport
Ikuhisa Minowa vs Zulu
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3w...dynamite_sport
Melvin Manhoef vs Yousuke Nishijima
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3w...ishijima_sport
Hideo Tokoro vs Kiyoshi Tamura
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkNLEFeT8Nw
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5smkMWjkRMw
LEONARD! Give us your thoughts on it.
Here is fiveouncesofpain.com with pound for pound rankings. I think this is about right.
"5. Fedor Emelianenko - I really struggled with this. Personally, I believe Fedor is the best fighter in the world. But a fighter needs to fight and a top ten fighter should be fighting other top ten fighters, not freak show acts (Hong-man Choi). Fedor destroyed Choi at Yarennoka, but he was supposed to. In my mind, the win is just enough to prevent him from dropping too far."
He could easily be back to number 1 with a short series of solid matches.
So, what happens if Tim destroys Nogueira? That's the thing I've thought about. Does that add legitimacy to Tim or take away the pedestal from Fedor? I guess it doesn't technically prove anything for Couture (because we can't use MMA math). Everyone ranks Fedor based on his wins against Cro Cop, Hunt, and Big Nog. So Cro Cop isn't what anyone thought and Hunt won't be in the UFC fighting. So Nog is the only one left..
Also, regarding the event. I had some thoughts/comments.
I can't believe I am actually saying this, but I think I would actually rather hear Bill Goldberg than Frank Trigg.
Rogan+Goldy > Trigg+whoever the it was
The fights were decent, but some people are making them out to be the greatest.
Misaki and Akiyama was pretty slow, but no yellow cards? You should already know why.. Good win for Misaki, but he almost lost.
I thought the fights were based on the "whole fight"? What the happened with the Bustamante fight? He controlled the whole fight, but got caught. He held on, and then reversed position at the end of the fight. That's a loss?
Melendez needs some take down defense and needs to time his knees to the takedowns. Ishida was pretty quick though and good grind out win. Not much damage from either side, but Melendez looked out of his element -- like he didn't know what Ishida was going to do. (Did he even watch any tape?)
Do some of these people train for the people they are fighting? I don't just mean for this event, but there are tons of events.
How do people not know Fedor is going to try an armbar every chance he gets? When people are wrestlers, why don't people learn some takedown defense? You don't have to be a wrestler to have good takedown defense. Chuck is a good example. (and don't tell me Chuck IS a wrestler, he wrestled some in college but never won anything) He PRACTICES his stuffing takedowns. BJ Penn is another example of great takedown defense.
I think its been so long since they fought it doesn't matter anymore.
But regardless.... Timmeh beating Nog is so huge for him. As much as people bag on Timmeh (like me) at least he is frequently fighting legit fights.
Fedor's fight was what it was...now he can move on and fight some real opponents in 2008...
Can't believe Melendez lost...would've liked to have seen another round in that one.
I need to re-watch Akiyama vs Misaki...they never showed a replay...was curious to see if Akiyama's knee was down when he was kicked. Weird fight and weird post-fight scene...
Aoki almost screwed around and got armbar'd... acious armbar defense by him though. Nice showing by Jung on VERY short notice...and his mma debut.
How can Fedor's training partner be SOOOOOOOO bad on the ground?? It seems impossible...
Trigg is good with cue card but not so great live.
Melendez brought to the core my biggest complaints with ropes. I can't stand it when people fall out of them and start reaching for them or when they reset them in the middle. He looked so lost without a cage to lean against and kept grabbing for those ropes. I hate ropes. Had that been in a cage he would have won I think but that’s no excuse.
But the darn presentation looks soooooooooooo much better without a cage. They way the light bounces off a white canvas without a cage obsctructing the view is simply amazing. Everything looks so much grander. Imagine Chuck and Wanderlei in the PRIDE ring instead of the octagon. It would have been an all timer.
Akiyama had one foot up and his knee was still touching as Misaki started the kick, but did have the knee off the ground as he was hit. It's close and could be disputed, but I slow-mo'd that mofo like 10 times. Two-point contact when the kick actually hits. Aside from the fact, who is going to reverse the decision even if he was on the ground?
Forgot about the Jung fight. He looked SOLID against Aoki and for his first outing.
Yea...pros and cons of both.
I thought the IFL's 5 rope setup looked pretty slick...maybe it was because it was in HD though. Those ropes didn't give much...
Cool...I hadn't gone back to watch it. I thought it was odd that they never showed a replay. I knew it was close. That was a brutal kick across the nose. That whole building wanted Akiyama to lose, so I knew nothing would be done even if it was illegal...
yeah they did look good. Nice gray.
I need to see the whole thing. I switched over to UFC 79 and kept up with the IFL WGP on my laptop.
UFC needs to go to white floors....just go ahead and steal it from PRIDE. Blue looks AWFUL!!!!!!!!!!!
By: Ben Fowlkes Category:
In case you haven’t heard, Fedor Emelianenko won his circus fight with Korean giant Hong Man Choi in the Yarennoka New Year’s Eve show. The outcome was never really in doubt, especially when you consider that Yarennoka changed the rules for this bout to ban knee strikes, one of Choi’s best and only weapons.The fight took less than two minutes and resulted in a fairly comedic but utterly meaningless armbar.
Now that it’s over, I can’t help but wonder what’s going through Fedor’s mind. Is he sitting around some Japanese hotel room right now, watching senseless game shows and trying to avoid looking at himself in the mirror? Does he periodically feel sad for no explainable reason, and does this sadness linger until he checks his bank account balance? What does he tell himself about what he’s become?
It’s not that I don’t understand why a Russian fighter who grew up so poor he had to share a coat with his brother would sell out the first chance he got, which is what Fedor has done, let’s just admit it. As The Million Dollar Man used to say, “Everybody has a price” (yes, most of my life philosophy comes from late 80’s-early 90’s pro wrestling).
But the difference between Fedor and the rest of us is that Fedor didn’t have to sell out to get rich. Fedor had a choice, and now he has to live with the one he’s made.
Whatever rumor you believe about how much the UFC was offering Fedor to sign on and fight Randy Couture, you have to think it was a lot of money. We’re talking somewhere in the millions, after contracts and bonuses and sponsorships are factored in. But Fedor turned that down, or rather, his management team did. They turned it down so he could fight in M-1, which was probably a better deal for his management team, and which currently only exists in the form of a Fedor rental operation.
In other words, Fedor is being used. That’s not so bad, I suppose. Every fighter gets used to some extent. It’s been that way from Jack Dempsey to Mike Tyson. But Fedor is doing it at the expense of his legacy, his reputation, and maybe his dignity.
Honestly, does anyone consider a victory over Hong Man Choi — a man with only one previous MMA bout — to be a serious accomplishment for someone who is supposed to be the world’s best heavyweight? In the post-fight press conference Fedor again mentioned how much he’d like to fight Randy Couture, but by walking away from a UFC contract he’s already essentially turned that fight down.
At some point, Fedor has to stop and ask himself how much money is enough. How much is it worth to squander great potential in matchups that amount to little more than practical jokes? How much is it worth to be remembered as the guy who might have been great? I hate to say it, but right now it looks as though greed — either on the part of Fedor, his management team, or both — is destroying what could have been a legendary career, and that’s the worst part.
If Fedor wasn’t so talented, it wouldn’t matter. He could take part in any number of matches that blur the line between pro wrestling and pro fighting, and I wouldn’t say a word. He could fight a circus bear and it would be just good clean fun.
But this is Fedor. This is “The Russian Last Emperor”. This is the one-word name that has come to mean something in the world of MMA. If things don’t change very soon, how much longer will we be able to say that?
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