Game Thoughts: Spurs @ Warriors Jan. 7

[ChumpDumper]

Here's a game thought: Baron Davis is a much better point guard than Tony Parker.

Here's a game thought. sunfan is obsessed with the Spurs and their games.

[THE SIXTH MAN]

Here's a game thought: Baron Davis is a much better point guard than Tony Parker.

Heres another thought:The Warriors are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more exciting to watch then the suns.

And if teh suns dont watch out...oh noes they might lose their ratings championship!

[da_suns_fan]

Heres another thought:The Warriors are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more exciting to watch then the suns.

And if teh suns dont watch out...oh noes they might lose their ratings championship!

What do the Suns have to do with Baron Davis and Tony Parker?

I guess Spurs fans have just given up trying to defend Mr. Longoria.

[FromWayDowntown]

I respect the effort last night under some adverse cir stances -- 4th game in 5 nights; playing in a hostile environment; still trying to put the pieces together -- and think it's almost amazing that the Spurs were even in position to get that game into overtime. If the Spurs could have been bothered to deny a few layups in the 2nd quarter (at one point, the Warriors were 12-14 from the field in that quarter; I thought the Warriors were effective at doing what they do, but it was unusual for a Spurs team to permit so many easy looks, including layups) they likely pull that game out -- though it wouldn't have required the furious 4th quarter comeback.

I was impressed that the Spurs were, for the most part, able to match the Warriors shot-for-shot from the late third through the end of regulation. For a team that has been offensively-inept of late, the Spurs at least showed some signs of life (granted, against a team that plays lip service to really playing defense) and found ways to score when they had to. In thinking about the building process of a season, I certainly think that's a positive that can be taken from last night's game.

With that, there were far too many unnecessary/unforced/stupid turnovers for the Spurs last night and that's troubling.

[T Park]

With that, there were far too many unnecessary/unforced/stupid turnovers for the Spurs last night and that's troubling.

eh they always do that in the first half of the season.

[polandprzem]

TPark can you take off your ugly signature?

[tmtcsc]

Here's a game thought: Baron Davis is a much better point guard than Tony Parker.

Here's a game thought: Your Suns team as you know it will be trading a star player because of "chemistry" issues. Bye Bye Rajah Bell most likely. Marion ? Who wants that bloated contract ? Same for Diaw.

[da_suns_fan]

Here's a game thought: Your Suns team as you know it will be trading a star player because of "chemistry" issues. Bye Bye Rajah Bell most likely. Marion ? Who wants that bloated contract ? Same for Diaw.

Can't we talk about the SPURS?

Lets rank NBA point guards, shall we?

1) Nash
1a) Chris Paul (although this is getting harder and harder to justify)

From there it goes to the second tier "Franchise point guards".

This includes Baron Davis, Gilbert Arenas, Jason Kidd and Chauncy Billups

Next comes the "next generation guys not quite ready for franchise status"

This includes Deron Williams and Brandon Roy.

Next comes "talented point guards who don't do much besides score."

This includes Devin Harris, Tony Parker and Leandro Barbosa.

[Kori Ellis]

Can't we talk about the SPURS?

Lets rank NBA point guards, shall we?

1) Nash
1a) Chris Paul (although this is getting harder and harder to justify)

From there it goes to the second tier "Franchise point guards".

This includes Baron Davis, Gilbert Arenas, Jason Kidd and Chauncy Billups

Next comes the "next generation guys not quite ready for franchise status"

This includes Deron Williams and Brandon Roy.

Next comes "talented point guards who don't do much besides score."

This includes Devin Harris, Tony Parker and Leandro Barbosa.

You are picking a bad day to do this, considering Tony had 31 and 8 last night, and he wasn't the one guarding Baron Davis.

But let's rank championships instead, shall we? The bottomline in sports is winning.

Anyway, you are annoying as . If you want, I can just re-ban you, or you can start posting like someone who has an ounce of intelligence.

[FromWayDowntown]

Gilbert Arenas does things other than score?

His status as a franchise player is certainly being tested by this year's Wizards team.

[da_suns_fan]

You are picking a bad day to do this, considering Tony had 31 and 8 last night, and he wasn't the one guarding Baron Davis.

But let's rank championships instead, shall we? The bottomline in sports is winning.

Anyway, you are annoying as . If you want, I can just re-ban you, or you can start posting like someone who has an ounce of intelligence.

I don't wait for Parker to have a bad game to say my opinion of him.

When everyone was just GLOSSING the guy in the beginning of the year (when he was playing very well), I was saying the same thing.

You'll allow the most vulgar and profanity laced posts to go unchecked (see mardigan, stretch etc), but saying Tony Parker isnt an elite point guard can get you banned?

Do whatever you want........you should really just post some forum rules.

[Kori Ellis]

....

Do whatever you want........you should really just post some forum rules.

Since you need clarification, here's your rule:

Stop making everyone of your posts read like this ...

"Spurs are OLD. Spurs SUCK. Spurs are OLD. Spurs SUCK. SUNS RULE!!?!!"

You sound like a repe ive dimwit.

[ChumpDumper]

Do whatever you want........you should really just post some forum rules.

The rule is she does whatever she wants.

And as much as it galls you, Tony is really quite good.

[Bruno]

BTW, Parker said after the clippers game that "his ankle doesn't bother him anymore' and that "he was at 100%".

And I know it's not really related with this thread but I don't want to start a thread just for that.

[DazedAndConfused]

As long as the Spur's defense is there they will be fine. Offense comes and goes, but the one constant you can always bring as a team is great defense. Despite a horrific offensive game (sans 4th quarter) the Spurs were in the game and damn near won it. They'll pickup their offense as the playoff approaches.

I really think not having Barry in that 2nd unit is more devastating than people think. He is a key initiator/facilitator on offense for their 2nd unit. The other Spur's bench players need to step up, Udoka/Bonner/Vaughan are not getting it done.

[telecomguy]

Here's a game thought: Baron Davis is a much better point guard than Tony Parker.

no kidding...i have been saying that for long time.

Baron is a stud. The thing is Tony still can't hit jumpers (the 3 not withstanding) on a reliable basis.

Tony is very good but until he gets a reliable jumper, he will never be a top 5 PG in the NBA in my opinion.

(ok i am ready for the rotten eggs coming my way.....

[SenorSpur]

As long as the Spur's defense is there they will be fine. Offense comes and goes, but the one constant you can always bring as a team is great defense. Despite a horrific offensive game (sans 4th quarter) the Spurs were in the game and damn near won it. They'll pickup their offense as the playoff approaches.

That's part of the problem. Their defense, at least last night anyway, was terrible. Over the course of this season, it's been very inconsistent -at best. The offense has also been struggling and inconsistent too. Much in part to the rash of injuries, but also the result of poor shooting and shot selection.

I really think not having Barry in that 2nd unit is more devastating than people think. He is a key initiator/facilitator on offense for their 2nd unit. The other Spur's bench players need to step up, Udoka/Bonner/Vaughan are not getting it done.

That may be true to a point, but Barry's presence solves nothing on the defensive side.

[telecomguy]

Can't we talk about the SPURS?

Lets rank NBA point guards, shall we?

1) Nash
1a) Chris Paul (although this is getting harder and harder to justify)

From there it goes to the second tier "Franchise point guards".

This includes Baron Davis, Gilbert Arenas, Jason Kidd and Chauncy Billups

Next comes the "next generation guys not quite ready for franchise status"

This includes Deron Williams and Brandon Roy.

Next comes "talented point guards who don't do much besides score."

This includes Devin Harris, Tony Parker and Leandro Barbosa.

This is not a bad synopsis of the top PG rankings......although I would definitely put Deron Williams above Gilbert Arenas. Here is my take.

1) Nash
2) Kidd
3) Chauncy
4) Deron
5) Paul
6) Baron
7) Harris
8) Parker
9) Roy
10 Arenas

[tlongII]

83 points from the Big 3 and you still lose? Not a good sign...

[diego]

da suns suck

where are people saying baron sucks anyways? he's a great pg, when healthy.

if you consider arenas, roy, and barbosa point guards, then what's your problem with parker?

i guess you expect spurs fans to dismiss the point guard that led them to 3 les in 5 years? well i think steve nash's nutsack is producing a powerful narcotic and you need to seek medical attention immediately before it consumes you entirely.

[da_suns_fan]

This is not a bad synopsis of the top PG rankings......although I would definitely put Deron Williams above Gilbert Arenas. Here is my take.

1) Nash
2) Kidd
3) Chauncy
4) Deron
5) Paul
6) Baron
7) Harris
8) Parker
9) Roy
10 Arenas

Wow....I have hard time writing Paul as number two.

[Barbarian]

This is not a bad synopsis of the top PG rankings......although I would definitely put Deron Williams above Gilbert Arenas. Here is my take.

1) Nash
2) Kidd
3) Chauncy
4) Deron
5) Paul
6) Baron
7) Harris
8) Parker
9) Roy
10 Arenas

Harris > Parker, Arenas and Roy???? Paul at 5???? I will never take any of your posts serious again.

[telecomguy]

Harris > Parker, Arenas and Roy???? Paul at 5???? I will never take any of your posts serious again.

ARENAS JACKS UP TOO MANY SHOTS AND DOESN'T GET HIS TEAMMATES INVOLVED. LOOK WHAT HAPPENED WHEN HE GOT INJURED.....WASHINGTON PLAYED REALLY WELL AND CARON BUTLER EMERGED

WITH ROY, I MAY HAVE HIM TOO LOW BUT I REALLY HAVE ONLY SEEN HIM FEW TIMES AND HE DIDN'T HAVE GREAT GAMES SO MAYBE I AM BIASED. HER CERTAINLY HAS THE SIZE AND ATHELETICISM.....SIMILAR TO DERON

HARRIS IS A VERY GOOD DEFENDER AND THAT IS WHY I HAVE HIM HIGHER THAN PARKER AND ARENAS. I THINK IF HARRIS PLAYED ON A TEAM WHERE HE DIDN'T HAVE SO MANY SHOOTERS AND OFFENSIVE MINDED PLAYERS, HE WOULD BE SCORING MORE. HARRIS IS A GOOD PLAYER......AND EVEN FASTER THAN TONY.

[telecomguy]

where are people saying baron sucks anyways? he's a great pg, when healthy.

if you consider arenas, roy, and barbosa point guards, then what's your problem with parker?

i guess you expect spurs fans to dismiss the point guard that led them to 3 les in 5 years? well i think steve nash's nutsack is producing a powerful narcotic and you need to seek medical attention immediately before it consumes you entirely.

Parker LED the Spurs to 3 les in 5 years? The first one against New Jersey, a second string guard had to take over for TP in the playoffs because TP started choking so badly. The second le against Pistons, Manu was the superman. In both of those les, Duncan was the main man. The last le against Cavs, TP played very well and you can say he LED the team to the le.

So 1 le out of 4, TP contributed significantly, although even last year, DUncan was clearly the PLAYOFFS MVP as he dominated against the Suns in their toughest matchup on the road to the championship.

The good thing is that TP is improving EVERY YEAR so he may one day yet become top 5 PG in the league but he isn't there yet.

[Barbarian]

ARENAS JACKS UP TOO MANY SHOTS AND DOESN'T GET HIS TEAMMATES INVOLVED. LOOK WHAT HAPPENED WHEN HE GOT INJURED.....WASHINGTON PLAYED REALLY WELL AND CARON BUTLER EMERGED

WITH ROY, I MAY HAVE HIM TOO LOW BUT I REALLY HAVE ONLY SEEN HIM FEW TIMES AND HE DIDN'T HAVE GREAT GAMES SO MAYBE I AM BIASED. HER CERTAINLY HAS THE SIZE AND ATHELETICISM.....SIMILAR TO DERON

HARRIS IS A VERY GOOD DEFENDER AND THAT IS WHY I HAVE HIM HIGHER THAN PARKER AND ARENAS. I THINK IF HARRIS PLAYED ON A TEAM WHERE HE DIDN'T HAVE SO MANY SHOOTERS AND OFFENSIVE MINDED PLAYERS, HE WOULD BE SCORING MORE. HARRIS IS A GOOD PLAYER......AND EVEN FASTER THAN TONY.

Whats with the shouting?
I may agree a bit about Arenas but my point is that you are over rating Harris. He is not in the same class as the other 9 pg on your flawed list. Parker > Harris in a landslide. Mavs would trade for parker in heart beat. as they would for Roy.