Five Reasons To Elect Alonzo Mourning To The HOF

[m33p0]

Why isn't Dennis Johnson in the HOF? He was the MVP of that Seattle le, he won 2 more with Boston, Boston retired his number.
Is it because of the incident in 1997?
(This is just the relevant piece of an article that came out after he died.)

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/edi...ennis_johnson/

.... By most accounts, he took himself off the fast track by being arrested for grabbing his wife's throat, threatening her with a knife, and threatening one of his sons in their Orlando home in 1997.

Johnson was also much talked about as a candidate for the Basketball Hall of Fame.

"If someone is a convicted felon," Hall of Fame president Joe O'Brien said at the time, "we would eliminate them from consideration."
.....

well, that doesn't help. i didn't know about that one. i really don't know anything about a player's life outside of basketball.

thanks for the heads up.

[exstatic]

"David Robinson shies away from contact."

Alonzo Mourning.

Did he shy away from hanging 56 on your ass, 'Zo?

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

The Admiral was awesome.......Alonzo, not so much.

[FromWayDowntown]

It includes ABA and I assume a few international, a couple female players, and maybe college players as well, but there are 134 players in the Hall of Fame. I'd bet well over 100 are NBA players.

http://www.hoophall.com/halloffamers...y.html#players

I went back and checked and my number was off, but by no more than 3. There are, by my count, 52 "players" enshrined in the Hall of Fame who never played in the NBA:

Tom Barlow
John Beckman
Sergei Belov
Carol Blazejowski
Bernard Borgmann
Joseph Brennan
Kresmir Cosic
Joan Crawford
Denise Curry
Drazen Dalipagic
Forest DeBernardi
Henry Dehnert
Anne Donovan
Paul Endacott
Bud Foster
Marty Friedman
Laddie Gale
Pop Gates
Robert Gruenig
Vic Hanson
Lusia Harris-Stewart
Marques Haynes
Nat Holman
Chuck Hyatt
William Johnson
Edward Krause
Bob Kurland
Joe Lapchick
Nancy Lieberman
Hank Luisetti
Hortencia Marcari
Branch McCracken
Jack McCracken
Bobby McDermott
Dino Meneghin
Ann Meyers
Cheryl Miller
Chuck Murphy
Harlan Page
John Roosma
John Russell
Ernest Schmidt
John Schommer
Barney Sedran
Uljana Semjonova
Christian Steinmetz
John Thompson
Robert Vandiver
Ed Wachter
Nera White
Lynette Woodard
John Wooden

That makes the total number of NBA players in the Hall roughly 82, only 40 of whom didn't make the 50 Greatest Players list.

Perhaps more telling of the exclusivity of the Hall, I think, is the fact that since 2000, only 12 players with NBA ties have been enshrined: Bob McAdoo, Isiah Thomas, Moses Malone, Drazen Petrovic, Magic Johnson, James Worthy, Robert Parish, Maurice Stokes, Clyde Drexler, Charles Barkley, Joe Dumars, and Dominique Wilkins. Petrovic is in primarily for his international accomplishments and Stokes is the tragic story of a great player who left the game far too soon. Of the other 10, only McAdoo, Wilkins, and Dumars weren't on the 50 Greatest list. For whatever it's worth, McAdoo and Wilkins each made the unofficial Next 10 in 2006.

My sole point is to say that the Basketball Hall of Fame has been, for whatever reason, far more exclusive than inclusive when it comes to NBA players. That's not to say conclusively that Zo won't get in, just that things are probably going to have to loosen up a bit for him to get in.

[ambchang]

He did not screw anybody over. If those teams really wanted him guess what he would not have gone anywhere. The Nets traded him for Vince Carter and a pack of gum I think they made out well. The Raptors really were not going to play him much since they were developing Bosh at the time.

Read your history books, he acted like a jerk, went to the Heat because he didn't want to share the spotlight with Larry Johnson in Charlotte.
He was involved in an ugly brawl with the Knicks in the playoffs, costing the Heat a chance to advance.
Found out he had kidney problems with the Heat, the Heat stuck with him, but he elected to sign with NJN once he realized the Heat has no chance to contend.
Pulled the same trick on NJN once he realized the Nets had no chance to contend, demanded a trade, went to the Raptors, refused to sign and got $10 mil from it because he didn't want to go to a rebuilding team.
You actually think the Raptors were trying to trade away their franchise player (another jerk) for a player they had to buyout for $10 mil? Yes the Raptors were royally stupid to cave in, but Mourning screwed them up royally.

[CubanMustGo]

For what it's worth, the folks at basketballreference.com have a formula they use to calculate likely HOFers. Right now Mourning falls a bit short, which is where I would put him. A very good, not all-time great NBA player.

http://www.databasebasketball.com/le...leadershof.htm

This formula provides a handy guide for rating a player's HOF chances. It is NOT meant to be a way to compare players of different eras or even of similar eras, but instead is based on specific stats and awards which seem to push a player towards HOF induction. The best way to get into the HOF is to win an MVP. Every NBA player who has won an MVP is in the HOF. One thing you will notice is that good young players tend to jump out to a quick pace. This score is not ulative, so a player's score can decrease after bad or average seasons

HOF Monitor Scores of current or not yet eligible players (Likely HOFer > 135)

1. Michael Jordan 731
2. Karl Malone 501
3. Tim Duncan 431
4. Shaquille O'neal 362
5. Steve Nash 297
6. David Robinson 289
7. Kevin Garnett 269
8. Allen Iverson 241
9. Dirk Nowitzki 234
10. Kobe Bryant 212
11. Jason Kidd 207
12. John Stockton 194
13. Scottie Pippen 189
14. Gary Payton 173

15. Chris Webber 139
16. Tracy Mcgrady 132
17. Tim Hardaway 130
18. Reggie Miller 130
19. Anfernee Hardaway 125
20. Horace Grant 121
21. LeBron James 119
22. Alonzo Mourning 118
23. Mark Jackson 117
24. Latrell Sprewell 116
25. Paul Pierce 116
26. Sam Cassell 115
27. Grant Hill 115
28. Rod Strickland 113
29. Ray Allen 113
30. Vince Carter 111
31. Stephon Marbury 111
32. Elton Brand 110
33. Dikembe Mutombo 109
34. Kevin Willis 108
35. Charles Oakley 107
36. Shawn Marion 107
37. Vlade Divac 105
38. Shawn Kemp 104
39. Eddie Jones 101
40. Shareef Abdur-rahim 99
41. Derrick Coleman 98
42. Steve Francis 97
43. Andre Miller 97
44. Antoine Walker 95
45. Dwyane Wade 94
46. Glen Rice 94
47. Mike Bibby 94
48. Nick Van Exel 93
49. Rasheed Wallace 93
50. Clifford Robinson 93