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    Colin Robinson vs. Antoni Hardonk
    Does anyone care who wins this fight?

    Bas!

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    Stout hasn't been really tested on the ground, so this is a good test. Of course, Sam could knock him out before he gets that chance. I'm picking Per for this one..


    Joe Stevenson vs. BJ Penn
    BJ just seems focused for this fight, and I expect him to come in ready to go the full 5 rounds. I don't think it will be needed though. Pellegrino gave Stevenson problems on the feet and on the ground. Penn has better hands and his takedown defense is fabulous. I expect BJ to win by Sub in the 2nd.

    Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Fabricio Werdum
    They have both grown in talent since their last meeting, but I think Gonzaga has grown a bit more. Gonzaga has the better wrestling, but Werdum has a slight advantage in the bjj. Gonzaga also has improved his standing game, and I expect this to be the difference. GG by UD.

    Marcus Davis vs. Jess Liaudin
    Marcus Davis, of course has great hands because he was formerly a boxer. As he showed against Paul Taylor though, he also has come along way with his ground game. I don't expect this to be a ground war, and expect Davis to win by KO/TKO in the 1st.

    Jason Lambert vs. Wilson Gouveia
    This is my FOTN candidate. Lambert has a good all-around game, even though he was mounted by Rashad. I think he is more of a force on the feet than Gouveia and that will be his game plan. Lambert by KO/TKO in the 2nd.

    Kendall Grove vs. Jorge Rivera
    Jorge doesn't really have any strengths that would give Grove any trouble. I expect Grove to use his reach to keep Rivera at a distance and take this to ground and submit Jorge early. Grove by Sub in the 1st.

    Alessio Sakara vs. James Lee
    Another against the grain pick. I don't really follow either of these fighters, but I noticed that Lee has never been knocked out. I expect some heavy hands to be thrown, but I expect Lee to come out on top. Lee by KO/TKO in the 3rd.

    Sam Stout vs. Per Eklund
    I may be going against the grain here. Stout definitely has the advantage on the feet here and will try to keep this fight standing. Eklund is excellent on the ground, but his takedowns aren't that spectacular but effective. Regardless, unless Sam gets a quick knockout, I expect this thing to go to the ground. At which point, I fully expect Per to pull out the Sub (ala Florian). Eklund by Sub in the 1st.

    Paul Kelly vs. Paul Taylor
    Paul Kelly seems to be brought in to fit into the hometown guy, but I don't think his perfect record will stay intact. Taylor just has more experience against the better opposition. Taylor by KO/TKO in the 1st.

    Colin Robinson vs. Antoni Hardonk
    Does anyone care who wins this fight?
    Nice write up oligarchy!

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    Jason Lambert vs. Wilson Gouveia
    This is my FOTN candidate. Lambert has a good all-around game, even though he was mounted by Rashad. I think he is more of a force on the feet than Gouveia and that will be his game plan. Lambert by KO/TKO in the 2nd.

    Alessio Sakara vs. James Lee
    Another against the grain pick. I don't really follow either of these fighters, but I noticed that Lee has never been knocked out. I expect some heavy hands to be thrown, but I expect Lee to come out on top. Lee by KO/TKO in the 3rd.
    Gouveia = death by leg kicks I wanna see a bunch more Gouveia this year...Lambert is a great guy to put him on the map at LHW for 2008.

    and I think Lee is a great underdog play. Sakara is HUGELY over-rated and Lee is virtually unknown. I saw Lee completely school Travis Wiuff in LV at Pride 32...I was very impressed. Lee by guillotine choke in rd 1...easy one.

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    UFC 80: JANUARY 19, 2008 in New Castle England
    Joe Stevenson vs. BJ Penn
    -Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Fabricio Werdum
    -Marcus Davis vs. Jess Liaudin
    -Jason Lambert vs. Wilson Gouveia-Kendall Grove vs. Jorge Rivera

    Preliminary Bouts:
    -Alessio Sakara vs. James Lee
    -Sam Stout vs. Per Eklund

    I dunno.....

    -Paul Kelly vs. Paul Taylor
    -Colin Robinson vs. Antoni Hardonk

    I can't quite figure out where BJ fits into the MMA matrix right now. He says he wants to fight until his 40's but only once or twice a year from here on out. I love his at ude though.

    I wonder why Jens never ended up training with him.

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    Gouveia = death by leg kicks I wanna see a bunch more Gouveia this year...Lambert is a great guy to put him on the map at LHW for 2008.

    and I think Lee is a great underdog play. Sakara is HUGELY over-rated and Lee is virtually unknown. I saw Lee completely school Travis Wiuff in LV at Pride 32...I was very impressed. Lee by guillotine choke in rd 1...easy one.
    Yeah. Gouveia is underrated as well in the division, but there's something about Lambert that I like.

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    Are getting vbookie?

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    Here are the betting odds according to Sportsbook.com:

    MAIN CARD
    B.J. Penn (-290) vs. Joe Stevenson (+235)
    Gabriel Gonzaga (-325) vs. Fabricio Werdum (+250)
    Marcus Davis (-350) vs. Jess Liaudin (+275)
    Kendall Grove (-350) vs. Jorge Rivera (+250)
    Wilson Gouveia (-145) vs. Jason Lambert (+155)

    UNDERCARD
    Sam Stout (-315) vs. Per Eklund (+260)
    Antoni Hardonk (-340) vs. Colin Robinson (+280)
    Paul Taylor (-220) vs. Paul Kelly (+180)
    Alessio Sakara (-150) vs. James Lee (+140)

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    Sherdog pics/previews
    http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=10844
    http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=10842

    Press conf is up on ufc.com's multimedia section too...

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    Tomas Rios got writing skillz.

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    UFC 80: JANUARY 19, 2008 in New Castle England
    -Joe Stevenson (#8 Lightweight in the World)* vs. BJ Penn
    -Gabriel Gonzaga (#5 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Fabricio Werdum (#8 Heavyweight in the World)*
    -Marcus Davis (#10 Welterweight in the World)* vs. Jess Liaudin
    -Jason Lambert vs. Wilson Gouveia
    -Kendall Grove vs. Jorge Rivera

    3 out of 4 fighters in the main event are bjj world champions and Joe Stevenson is an accomplished submission wrestler. Any grappling fan should look forward to these fights. I just hope they don't stand and try to slug it out to avoid the others strenghths.

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    There's also the chance for the dreaded stalemate that can occur when two highly skilled grapplers fight. I can see that being in a possibilty with Werdum and Gonzaga on the ground but not BJ and Stevenson.

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    I think BJ will stuff Joe's takedowns and pick him apart...I just can't see any way for Joe to win other than a decision... (I guess a cut is always an option)

    I think GG will try to do the same, although Werdum has been training with CB so he might come in with a striking gameplan...worst case, he's more exciting than he was against AA and gets another fight.

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    Those predictions sound pretty solid. It would just be cool to see these matches live up to their potential in terms world class grappling.

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    Those predictions sound pretty solid. It would just be cool to see these matches live up to their potential in terms world class grappling.
    Same here...love a good ground fight (as long as it's not Hughes or Sherk laying on a guy while grinding on their face with elbows)...

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    (as long as it's not Hughes or Sherk laying on a guy while grinding on their face with elbows)...
    At least it gives you a chance to a grab a beer, take a piss, make a sandwhich, etc...

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    I love a well executed ground game. I would be fine without a single punch thrown if the guys are skilled with good cardio.

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    I broke back into the MMA gambling scene last night…

    I signed up on betus.com and put $100 on James F’n Lee to kick Sakara’s over-rated ass! He’s +150, so after he wins I’ll have $250 in my account…

    He’s only +120 on Bodog…was +140, which means people are betting him fairly heavy. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the favorite by tomorrow…

    Gouveia was the underdog a couple days ago and is now the favorite (I think he should’ve been the favorite to begin with).

    These aren’t all current, but this is a great site for keeping up with odds on various sites.
    http://zewkey.com/mma_betting_super_page.htm

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    fool!

    Hey Leonard... pm Kori with betting odds holmes! I want vBookie!

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    I think BJ will stuff Joe's takedowns and pick him apart...I just can't see any way for Joe to win other than a decision... (I guess a cut is always an option)

    I think GG will try to do the same, although Werdum has been training with CB so he might come in with a striking gameplan...worst case, he's more exciting than he was against AA and gets another fight.
    Unless BJ's gas tank fails after the 2nd/3rd, I don't see how Stevenson could win.

    Werdum doesn't have good wrestling/takedowns at all, and GG is going to keep it on his feet. Werdum likes to keep a slow pace, so you might see a AA/Werdum type fight.

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    I broke back into the MMA gambling scene last night…

    I signed up on betus.com and put $100 on James F’n Lee to kick Sakara’s over-rated ass! He’s +150, so after he wins I’ll have $250 in my account…

    He’s only +120 on Bodog…was +140, which means people are betting him fairly heavy. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the favorite by tomorrow…

    Gouveia was the underdog a couple days ago and is now the favorite (I think he should’ve been the favorite to begin with).

    These aren’t all current, but this is a great site for keeping up with odds on various sites.
    http://zewkey.com/mma_betting_super_page.htm
    Shouldn't you start small?

    I put money on Eklund and Lee. +260 on Eklund and +140 on Lee (50 on each). I think it's 300 in the account after I win

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    I've tried the small bet thing and didn't really get anywhere...up and down and stayed about where I started. If I hit this one, I'll dump the $100 back and play around with the $150 on future cards...or just pick one and try to build it quick...

    and if Lee loses, I'm DONE

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    until the next good bet comes along

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    Joe Stevenson vs. BJ Penn
    Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Fabricio Werdum
    Marcus Davis vs. Jess Liaudin
    Jason Lambert vs. Wilson Gouveia
    Kendall Grove vs. Jorge Rivera
    Alessio Sakara vs. James Lee
    Sam Stout vs. Per Eklund
    Paul Kelly vs. Paul Taylor
    Colin Robinson vs. Antoni Hardonk

    I'd say DITTO to these picks...freakin' scary...you got access to my home cmptr DKD???

    Jason v Wilson is the only one I was close to going the other way on.

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    holy shiat this card is amazing so far!!!!!! Massive KO'S!!!!!

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    lol @ people that ed and passed on this card...

    and the 2 main fights are still coming up!

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    Wow, talk about a very UNimpressive win by Werdum...

    Did GG just gas & & give up or what????
    GG was dominating & making Werdum jump like a crippled flamingo til he lay down & gave up.

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