Shock of the season - must read.

[FromWayDowntown]

Even taking you at your word on that, it's pretty tame. I think history bears out my point.

And, back to the topic, the reason the Spurs rarely -- if ever -- complain about officiating is because officials rarely -- if ever -- decide the outcomes of games. PERIOD.

[Findog]

Even taking you at your word on that, it's pretty tame. I think history bears out my point.

And, back to the topic, the reason the Spurs rarely -- if ever -- complain about officiating is because officials rarely -- if ever -- decide the outcomes of games. PERIOD.

A lot of your fellow Spurs fans don't believe that regarding our series two years ago. Kind of the way Mavs fans like to remember the 06 Finals.

[Findog]

Fans can believe whatever they want about refs but that still doesn't change the outcome of the game. Fans always make excuses for their teams losing!

Yeah, there's only one game in that 06 Finals that I think the Mavs and us fans have a legitimate gripe and that's Game Five. Three other wins in that series by Miami you can't pin on the refs.

[SpursDynasty]

MISSED CALLS HAVE DECIDED SERIES IN THE PAST.

Just think...if Manu's foul on Dirk in Game 7 was not called, we win..right?

There's no expectation of the refs to "bail out" the Spurs. There's an expectation of the refs to DO THEIR JOB BY CALLING FOULS WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CALLED.

"Bailing out" the Spurs would be just giving them bull calls, much as they do to Dallas.

[Findog]

MISSED CALLS HAVE DECIDED SERIES IN THE PAST.

Just think...if Manu's foul on Dirk in Game 7 was not called, we win..right?

Just think, if Jason Terry keeps his hands off Findog's junk, the Spurs would've ended their season in Dallas. You were lucky there was a Game 7. And Manu fouled Dirk, no question. You guys had overtime to outscore Dallas and you couldn't do it.

[FromWayDowntown]

MISSED CALLS HAVE DECIDED SERIES IN THE PAST.

Just think...if Manu's foul on Dirk in Game 7 was not called, we win..right?

There's no expectation of the refs to "bail out" the Spurs. There's an expectation of the refs to DO THEIR JOB BY CALLING FOULS WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CALLED.

"Bailing out" the Spurs would be just giving them bull calls, much as they do to Dallas.

You're making absolutely no sense -- you say that refs should do their jobs by calling fouls when they're supposed to be called, but to support your position that officiating changes outcomes, you cite to a play where Manu Ginobili clearly fouled Dirk Nowitzki and argue that the officials shouldn't have called a foul.

Which is it, you hypocrite?

[LEONARD]

MISSED CALLS HAVE DECIDED SERIES IN THE PAST.

Just think...if Manu's foul on Dirk in Game 7 was not called, we win..right?

There's no expectation of the refs to "bail out" the Spurs. There's an expectation of the refs to DO THEIR JOB BY CALLING FOULS WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CALLED.

"Bailing out" the Spurs would be just giving them bull calls, much as they do to Dallas.

So Manu didn't foul Dirk???

[SpursDynasty]

Just think, if Jason Terry keeps his hands off Findog's junk, the Spurs would've ended their season in Dallas. You were lucky there was a Game 7. And Manu fouled Dirk, no question. You guys had overtime to outscore Dallas and you couldn't do it.

That's not relevant...this has to do with officials doing their job, and how that impacts games.

Not some fake ass jump shooting pretender impacting a game. completely irrelevant.

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Can I join the conversation ? What are we talking about, if I may ask ?