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    Retired Ray xrayzebra's Avatar
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    wild cobra you know not of what you speak

    He very well does not of what he speaks. The dimms will
    take the country down with their Socialist policies.
    Hillary cant stop talking about her Universal Health Care,
    and believe me that is only one of her great ideas.

    And for all the backers of Clinton, I cant wait to see you
    waiting for 18 months for an MRI or some other medical
    procedure. Like Canada or the UK. Or being told by a
    Socialist doctor that he wont treat you because you
    eat too much 0f a certain food and it is to high in fat
    content or you smoke, so forget any treatment. Or
    worst yet, send one of children home with no treatment
    because what they have is incurable and expensive
    to treat. Yeah, all these things have happened within
    their health care system. Vote Clinton, Edwards or
    Obama and reap the winds.

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    He very well does not of what he speaks. The dimms will
    take the country down with their Socialist policies.
    Hillary cant stop talking about her Universal Health Care,
    and believe me that is only one of her great ideas.

    And for all the backers of Clinton, I cant wait to see you
    waiting for 18 months for an MRI or some other medical
    procedure. Like Canada or the UK. Or being told by a
    Socialist doctor that he wont treat you because you
    eat too much 0f a certain food and it is to high in fat
    content or you smoke, so forget any treatment. Or
    worst yet, send one of children home with no treatment
    because what they have is incurable and expensive
    to treat. Yeah, all these things have happened within
    their health care system. Vote Clinton, Edwards or
    Obama and reap the winds.
    Honestly, youre starting to piss me off.

    Regardless of what poor schmuck gets elected, that same poor mother er is going to be stuck holding Bush Jrs bag of ups concerning the economy.

    Dem, Repub, Indie...it doesnt ing matter.

    If the person elected is anyone but Paul, we're going to experience a landmark recession.

    There isnt a a god damn thing ANYONE can do about it. NOTHING. Unless you cut government spending nearly in half, we might just experience LESS of a recession.

    God. I knew this was going to happen. Bush butt-rapes economics class for 8 years and the poor schmuck who takes his seat is going to be blamed by the lemmings of the world.

    Seriously, youre the voting public in a nuts . Congratulations on picking you side, you political shill.

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    The Father of Reaganomics on the Bush stimulus and the economic situation in general:

    A Stimulus to What?
    Paul Craig Roberts
    http://www.creators.com/opinion/paul...olumnsName=pcr

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    Well the DOW has bounced back!! It went from 300 pts down to back up again.

    But yeah, the next president will have to deal with the massive deficit the all mighty and powerful Bush has left.

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    tax rebates are a joke. Don't get me wrong, I will spend it if it's in my mailbox, but we (the US) don't have the money to be s ing out $600-$800 a person. Currently our National debt grows at about $1,000,000 a minute, and we are do nothing to pay it off. Sooner or later we will be owned by China and other countries because our own debt will be too great that it will sink us. This rebate is nothing more than a ploy during an election year to make us feel like our government is doing something. This is nothing more than a band aid on a broken arm.

    But atleast I'll get myself new golf clubs

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    welfare check

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    Honestly, youre starting to piss me off.

    Regardless of what poor schmuck gets elected, that same poor mother er is going to be stuck holding Bush Jrs bag of ups concerning the economy.

    Dem, Repub, Indie...it doesnt ing matter.

    If the person elected is anyone but Paul, we're going to experience a landmark recession.

    There isnt a a god damn thing ANYONE can do about it. NOTHING. Unless you cut government spending nearly in half, we might just experience LESS of a recession.

    God. I knew this was going to happen. Bush butt-rapes economics class for 8 years and the poor schmuck who takes his seat is going to be blamed by the lemmings of the world.

    Seriously, youre the voting public in a nuts . Congratulations on picking you side, you political shill.
    And your solution to the whole mess is blame the
    Republicans, vote for the Socialist dimm-o-craps and
    call me a shill. My you are just a smart guy. Did
    you figure all this out by yourself?

    The dimms will handle it with great finesse. Raise
    taxes and claim they balanced the budget, just like
    Bill did when he was the Prez.

    Create more en lements. Bush, the compassionate
    conservative, who let Kennedy write the education bill
    and proposed the drug en lements program. Who
    the dimm-o-craps could vote for fast enough.

    I support Bush on his foreign policy, but not on his
    domestic policy.

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    I don't support Bush and the repugnant spending.

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    I don't support Bush and the repugnant spending.
    It's all of them spending, not just the "repugnats" as you
    call them. The whole damn bunch love to spend.

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    And your solution to the whole mess is blame the
    Republicans, vote for the Socialist dimm-o-craps and
    call me a shill. My you are just a smart guy. Did
    you figure all this out by yourself?

    The dimms will handle it with great finesse. Raise
    taxes and claim they balanced the budget, just like
    Bill did when he was the Prez.

    Create more en lements. Bush, the compassionate
    conservative, who let Kennedy write the education bill
    and proposed the drug en lements program. Who
    the dimm-o-craps could vote for fast enough.

    I support Bush on his foreign policy, but not on his
    domestic policy.
    Seriously, what the are you talking about?!

    Where in that paragraph did I say "elect Democrats". I didnt, never have, you made that up out of thin air to somehow smack what I said.

    Youre incorrigible. Bush ed the economy in the ass for 8 years and now whomever is elected the next Prez is going to be stuck holding the bag. They will be blamed for the 8 years of "passing the buck" this administration is famour for.

    , its like speaking to a child.

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    ^^Humor me. I know you are a yankee, but try being civil once
    in a while. Thats a good boy.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    He very well does not of what he speaks. The dimms will
    take the country down with their Socialist policies.
    Hillary cant stop talking about her Universal Health Care,
    and believe me that is only one of her great ideas.

    And for all the backers of Clinton, I cant wait to see you
    waiting for 18 months for an MRI or some other medical
    procedure. Like Canada or the UK. Or being told by a
    Socialist doctor that he wont treat you because you
    eat too much 0f a certain food and it is to high in fat
    content or you smoke, so forget any treatment. Or
    worst yet, send one of children home with no treatment
    because what they have is incurable and expensive
    to treat. Yeah, all these things have happened within
    their health care system. Vote Clinton, Edwards or
    Obama and reap the winds.

    memo to Ray..we get to keep our private insurance if we want to... if you don't have access to basic healthcare you may have to wait but you and me we stroll right into our Doctor's office and get treated.. don't be stupid and repeat what hush tells you to..

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    It's all of them spending, not just the "repugnats" as you
    call them. The whole damn bunch love to spend.
    I see you noticed the "repugnant" reference as you like to call "dimm-o-craps".

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    Honestly, youre starting to piss me off.

    Regardless of what poor schmuck gets elected, that same poor mother er is going to be stuck holding Bush Jrs bag of ups concerning the economy.

    Dem, Repub, Indie...it doesnt ing matter.

    If the person elected is anyone but Paul, we're going to experience a landmark recession.

    There isnt a a god damn thing ANYONE can do about it. NOTHING. Unless you cut government spending nearly in half, we might just experience LESS of a recession.

    God. I knew this was going to happen. Bush butt-rapes economics class for 8 years and the poor schmuck who takes his seat is going to be blamed by the lemmings of the world.

    Seriously, youre the voting public in a nuts . Congratulations on picking you side, you political shill.
    Oh, by the way. It is better to be pissed off than
    pissed-on. But how would you know!

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    memo to Ray..we get to keep our private insurance if we want to... if you don't have access to basic healthcare you may have to wait but you and me we stroll right into our Doctor's office and get treated.. don't be stupid and repeat what hush tells you to..
    You mean I am paying all of this hospital insurance and
    you and your friends cant get basic care at the University
    Hospital. They will even give you an appointment. And
    not question your nationality. Now who is being
    untruthful. You or the hospital.

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    I'm going to buy sooooooooo many illegal drugs with this rebate

    and i will rent a car, and take a road trip to las vegas

    its going to be maximum (|20\/\/|\|4G3
    For once, my lavish drug use and thug life style won't have to be charged 2 da game. I'll have refunded tax money in my hands to do my spendin'.




    by t he way
    doesn't anyone just feel really really depressed hwen reading xray's posts? I mean
    I've been skimming over his crap for years now, and I STILL can't believe there is an entire brigade of people exactly like him, in every city of every state of this country. It's just like....wow, what ing planet are you from.

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    Seriously though, this is bull . They should not do anything. They should let the market take its hits, and focus on the inflation problem rather than recession. But that wouldn't fit into the entire master plan of hollowing out America's economy and eviscerating the middle class, now would it?

    Doing this will only up in the long run and nearly every economist has been saying this. The estate Dubya inherited from Clinton will pale into comparison with the estate Dubya leaves Clinton.

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    Im spending mine at Best Buy

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    2nd Verse Same as the 1st Oh, Gee!!'s Avatar
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    Wal-Mart musta lobbied big time for this to pass.

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    by t he way
    doesn't anyone just feel really really depressed hwen reading xray's posts? I mean
    I've been skimming over his crap for years now, and I STILL can't believe there is an entire brigade of people exactly like him, in every city of every state of this country. It's just like....wow, what ing planet are you from.
    Not to worry, you got your drugs to cure your depression.
    And you can always put me on ignore, but then you wouldn't
    have my words of wisdom to carry you through the day.
    And please be kind to me, you may hurt my feelings
    with post like this.

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    Seriously though, this is bull . They should not do anything. They should let the market take its hits, and focus on the inflation problem rather than recession. But that wouldn't fit into the entire master plan of hollowing out America's economy and eviscerating the middle class, now would it?

    Doing this will only up in the long run and nearly every economist has been saying this. The estate Dubya inherited from Clinton will pale into comparison with the estate Dubya leaves Clinton.
    Now I agreed with you until you gave president Clinton credit on the economy. He didn't have jack to do with the nice run we had. Up to 2000, technological advances moved everything upward. The internet flourished, we had very nice increments in computational speeds and memory sizes because of the CMP process being used on nearly all computer chips since 1994, and we had the drive to upgrade everything because of the Y2K scare. That's not everything, but it was the free market being free that drove the economy.

    Every time the government talks about a bailout, regulations, changing tax systems, etc, the market stalls until it knows how to respond. We have had a drop in the buying power of the dollar, and the fear of president Bush's tax reductions not being continued by congress. Fear and the unknown are key factors to the state of the economy now. The housing market has little or nothing to do with it. The biased medias are creating fear that if stalling the growth we should have as well. Every time the DOW drops, they blame it on something that most likely had no effect. They blame it on something however that we see is in chaos, and the fear of the two being linked keeps a dismal outlook on the last year of president Bush, trying to help secure a democrat win for 2008.

    Wake up people. Stop being a lemming.

    We cannot do any good by robbing the future to give consumers what, maybe a 1% increase in spending power? Congress and the president made this move for political reasons. Not because it's the right thing to do. They want to say before the November elections "look what I did" when people have a better outlook. Funny thing is, by then, we are probably going to see the positive effects of the dollar dropping. Some jobs should be coming back to the USA. This allows politicians to take credit for something they had noting to do with.

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