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that spurs hurts like a , I beg TP decide well about that
Good point Kori my wife has an uncle who is taking medication to dissolve a heel spur. Question is with the way these athletes put a strain on their bodies would that treament be effective.
that spurs hurts like a , I beg TP decide well about that
Sit him down. Let him heal. He's not playing like himself. Without a healthy Tony Parker, winning another championship will be extremely difficult. Let Brent/Jacque/Manu run the point until Parker is 100%.
Better to lose some regular season games because of no Tony Parker than playoff games.
Let's say his bone spurs are still really bothering him and hampering his effectiveness come late April. If he were to give it a go and try to play through it in the money season, would that make him a soft pussy choker? Even if he wasn't as productive as he normally was?
Playing through a painful injury that limits what you can do in the playoffs = soft pussy choker. Right?
let's face it, he is a bit of a choker. And anyone who thinks his jumper is going to magically become Nashisque is dreaming....if you haven't got it after 6 years in NBA you just don't have it. I am afraid he will never really be the quaterback of the Spurs due to his lack of ability to pass and "see" the court. Luckily we have Gino and TD to help move the ball and score in the crunch time, but TP is good for the beginning of the game when the opponents havent quiet settled down yet and figured out how to clog the paint.
That wasn't really what I was getting at. Nobody on this board has yet answered the question. Let's just say that there was another player that got bone spurs late in the season last year and played through it and wasn't as effective as he normally was, and his team lost in the first round and he was heavily criticized for his performance. He was called a choker even though he gutted it out and played because his team had no chance to make a deep playoff run without him, and for this he was derided as soft and lacking in leadership abilities.
I am afraid you are expecting too much from Tony. Tony is what he is. He has played this poorly in the past for long stretches. He had a very good finals last year but i don't think we should expect him to play like that all the time. He will contribute and he will continue to improve but when he gets shut down, we need to stop relying on him and TD/Gino has to become more assertive because TD/Gino has the most talent on the team and should naturally be leading the team, not Tony who really should be the scoring guart/penetrator when the opportunity presents itself.
honestly, i don't think his bone spurs are bothering him that much. And I still don't understand how bone spurs (assuming he has a serious case) would affect his jumpers and ability to pass.
Sorry Findog, we don't really have an example to go by. In 2005, Tim managed to play through two severe ankle sprains, and delivered a championship. It would be different for Tony, considering he isn't the face of the franchise, as great a player as he is.
Findog, did Dirk have bone spurs last year?
Was there any press about it? I don't remember hearing anything about him being hurt.
Did I miss it?
It happened a month before the playoffs started in a game against Milwaukee:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=270328006
The team didn't publicize it very much, just like they downplayed Damp's torn rotator cuff. Avery doesn't like to make excuses.
Keeping things under wraps sounds familiar...
So the point here is that Dirk got called out as a choker but he was actually hurt and not able to do more than he did.
It puts a new spin on it, that's for sure.
I wonder why his being hurt wasn't made common knowledge after they lost. I get that the team didn't want to make excuses but I would think it would have come out somewhere.
I think that comes from Avery and not Cuban. There were a myriad of reasons that the Mavs lost to Golden State, but not having your best player at 100% was one of them. And if you watched the Warrior series, it was clear that Dirk wasn't nearly as aggressive as he was in the previous playoffs. It had nothing to do with being "afraid" of the Warriors.
On the other hand, Duncan threw up 32 and 15 on plantar fasciitus (spelling?) against the Mavs in 06. I've never had bone spurs, but I have had pf. It hurts like but you can play with it. You can plant and cut like you normally would, it just hurts like , depending on the severity.
Dirk was certainly not himself in the Warriors series. I had no idea that he wasn't healthy until just now. Like I said, it puts a different spin on it.
Duncan played that whole season with the Planter Fasciitus. His performance in the Mavs series was incredible, but in the end he had nothing left in the overtime. I've always believed that it was the wear of the entire season that helped him run out of gas in that final 5 minutes. It was too much to push through any more.
It seems that Dirk was dealing with the bone spurs for some time before the playoffs, I think that it would wear on his ability to play.
I remember thinking Dirk really disappeared when his team needed him most. If I had known he was hurt it may have changed that thought. I tend to admire players who can push through it and be there for their team.
Interesting. I'm going to have to let this settle.
So bone spurs is the reason he hid from the ball in game 6?
Bone spurs is the reason he didn't play very well beginning the last part of the season. His "slump" started well before the Golden State series. He took 13 shots in the game, he averaged 17 on the season. He didn't play in the fourth quarter because the game was over. Does 13 shots in 3 quarters strike you as hiding from the ball?
I don't get why the Spurs just don't rest TP. They can still win at a .500 clip with Vaughan starting, why risk further injuring a player you are gonna need at 100% for the playoffs.
Hmmmm... I seem to remember him knocking down the 18fters pretty reliably last year, and especially during the playoffs, peaking in the Finals. The Finals MVP is a choker? I think not. Time after time he made big 18fters from the elbow against the Cavs.
I've looked at his hotspot chart for this season and he's shooting about 40% from midrange, except at the top of the key where he's cold. Because he finishes so well (61% close to the basket), overall he shoots 49%, however only 26% from 3 so he should really confine that to the corners only at this stage.
I think his game is being affected by the injury, and you're being way to harsh on him. He was one of the top 3 point guards in the NBA last playoffs, and unhampered by injury he can be that again.
Tony Parker is a great player. His heart and physical toughness is taken for granted imo. Where many players wilt under Pop's militaristic tirades, Parker developed. It seems some Spurs fans will just never like him for whatever reason. He has his good nights and bad nights like anyone else, but he has gotten better and more consistent as his career has progressed, and that's what its all about.
From what I've gathered, plantar fiscitus is more of a sharp stabbing pain, which is provoked by planting the foot firmly and/or jumping. A heal spur is more of a nagging pain, which is constantly there, like a jammed finger. I imagine it slows Tony down slightly, but I feel it would affect his focus more so. It's hard to focus and get into a groove when you are dealing with constant pain.
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