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    This is the cat that doesn't do much more than dunk, right?

    I suppose he is worth a look if he can expand his game.
    Actually that's a misconception. He has a very smooth offensive game and a good jumpshot. He actually uses his athleticism to get height on his jumpshot and make it near unblockable.

    I think what most mean by him being "raw" is actually learning how to operate within a system...but this kid CAN shoot the ball.

    James White, conversely, used his athleticism almost exclusively and still really doesn't have a reliable jumpshot.

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    Um, no... all Green has demonstrated is the ability to dunk thus far.

    Not saying he doesn't have more skills.

    He needs to use them.

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    Um, no... all Green has demonstrated is the ability to dunk thus far.

    Not saying he doesn't have more skills.

    He needs to use them.

    So he dunked his way to a 10PPG average in 81 games last season, while playing just over 20MPG?

    I'm guessing the extent to which you've seen Green is in the dunk contest...which would then be understandable that all you think he has done is dunk.

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    I'm not crazy about getting a guy who could bolt after the season with no recourse.

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    So he dunked his way to a 10PPG average in 81 games last season, while playing just over 20MPG?

    I'm guessing the extent to which you've seen Green is in the dunk contest...which would then be understandable that all you think he has done is dunk.

    Yes... do your research. Green scored more than 50% of his points off dunks/layups.

    No... I am from the East Coast and watched the Celts regularly.

    Don't argue with me. All I am saying is that he needs to expand his game.

    Sir Charles said the same thing the other night.

    Not saying he is not capable; he needs to show it.

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    the available swingmen

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    the spurs isn't gonna move him in, so why bother discussing his way out of minnesota. If he's available and the spurs need him then talk about him.

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    We need to be drafting swingmen in this draft, not one to stash away either.

    Brandon Rush would be nice and figures to be around where we'll picking.

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    I'm not crazy about getting a guy who could bolt after the season with no recourse.
    Probably the best thing written in this thread. If he is going to take time to develop, see above.

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    Who cares if he walks? Use the cap space to get someone else. Green will provide more dividends than a rookie would anyway.

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    There won't be any cap space.

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    There won't be any cap space.
    Help me here. Horry, Barry, Finley and Elson all go. How is there no cap space?

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    They will still be over the salary cap and only have the exceptions available to them. Replacing the four players mentioned above using only exceptions is not something I would want to do.

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    They will still be over the salary cap and only have the exceptions available to them. Replacing the four players mentioned above using only exceptions is not something I would want to do.
    To my mind, this amounts to another good reason to move Elson now.

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    To my mind, this amounts to another good reason to move Elson now.
    Not for a player with little chance of being retained and probably even smaller chance of helping this season.

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    They will still be over the salary cap and only have the exceptions available to them. Replacing the four players mentioned above using only exceptions is not something I would want to do.
    According to hoopshype (not sure how reliable), they're actually going to be a $2-3M under the projected cap for next year....which would incidentally hurt them because then I don't think they qualify for the MLE if they're under.

    Need some clarification from cap experts though...

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    Oberto's salary isn't listed, and even if they were $3 million under the cap they would have either the cap space or the exceptions available to them.

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    Oberto's salary isn't listed, and even if they were $3 million under the cap they would have either the cap space or the exceptions available to them.
    Oberto's salary isn't listed but the other numbers, sans Oberto, don't add up to the $53M figure....so I assume they're including his salary.

    And I understand that either way they'll have some money to play with...my point was to say that it would be better for them to make a trade for a multi-year contract person to ensure they have MORE money to play with in the off-season.

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    I'm fine with that kind of trade. These proposals for renting ineffectual players who won't make any difference this season and leave with no compensation this summer are stupid. I don't care about having MORE money to play with this summer because the amount of money available this summer is static unless we trade one of the big three for nothing.

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    They will still be over the salary cap and only have the exceptions available to them. Replacing the four players mentioned above using only exceptions is not something I would want to do.
    That's your problem.

    Just for the record... what DO you want to do?

    Stand pat?

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    I'm perfectly fine taking on an actual NBA player with a year or two left on a reasonable contract after this season. These proposals to rent of marginal NBA players and let them go with no way to replace them is stupid.

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    Like who.

    Please be constructive instead of acting like a spoiled baby swiping away perfectly good food.

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    Like not anyone you have suggested.

    Don't be mad because your ideas suck. Look for a team that might want to shed salary. Maybe Memphis would dump Mike Miller for expiring deals, then we could use the resulting room under the tax threshold to sign/retain a couple of young guys like Richardson and Langford to finish out the year. If they work out we can keep all three this summer with no problem.

    Now GFY, I gotta work for an hour.

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    LOL

    Why would Memphis hand over M. Miller?

    Because you want them to?

    You're preposterous.

    Kill yourself.

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    We really don't need another swingman. I know Barry is out 3-4 weeks, but rememeber we still have Jeremy Richardson, who looks like he will be signed for the rest of the season, unless they decide to bring back DerMarr Johnson.
    The Spurs like shooters who can spread the floor and DeMarr Johnson certainly demonstrated that he can shoot a bit. His lateral movement is a bit suspect, so I wonder if that could be improved upon. However he's no worse of a defender than either Barry or Finley at their advanced ages. I would've liked to see them bring DeMarr back too.

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