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Bruce's shooting slump isn't shocking. It's just a slump.
Just propose a Bowen trade and get it over with.
As I said in the OP, these are just ideas... maybe they're bad ideas, but I just don't think that standing pat is going to get us anywhere this year. Horry and Finley are really showing their age, Elson and Bonner have never adjusted to the system as we hoped they would, Tim doesn't get any calls any more, and Bruce is in a shocking shooting slump, not to mention injuries to TP and Barry.
Here's another idea:
5. pray, cross your fingers, slaughter some chickens and wallow in their entrails, do whatever you do when you rely on faith to get you through a tough situation, because without some sort of change that's exactly what we're relying on...
Bruce's shooting slump isn't shocking. It's just a slump.
Just propose a Bowen trade and get it over with.
I just don't get why you are so shocked by Bruce's shooting slump. I believe his shooting slump last season was two months. This season, he shot 48% (that's very good, by the way) from 3 in the month's of November and December. His slump has basically only been 12 games or so in January.
Should have happened five games ago, after the Bobcats game.
I am still saying he should play 24+ minutes, but maybe the change will do him good, and I still think he should play most of the game against the opponent's starters, just not those crucial minutes right at the start of the game when the team keeps putting themselves down by 8+ points.
I'm not proposing a Bowen trade because I don't believe we should trade him. I think he will return to some sort of form. I'm operating on the theory that the change might help him, and he'll be back to starting after the all-star game.
Jeez, you are acting like I'm a Bowen-hater! I'm not in any way, shape or form, , he's in my avatar! I just think a minor shakeup might help him and the team.
If we want real scoring get a real scorer. Udoka is not that guy.
Kori, I know he shot very well to start the season (and you know that I know that 48% is exceptional).
Anyway, it's unlikely to happen so we may as well drop it.
The broader point is that standing pat is not only get us anywhere this year, so please tell me what you would do to give this team the jolt it needs to find some form - you too CD. After all, that was the point of this thread.
Trade two or three expiring contracts for a big man Pop will actually play regular minutes.
Standing pat would be perfectly fine if Tony Parker were healthy. The Spurs are going to get the jolt they need if he gets healthy. If he doesn't get healthy, they likely won't win a Championship. Unless the Spurs are signing a player that averages 20/6 and shoots 50%+ in 35 mpg.
Spurs games won - Parker 20.7 points - 52% from the field.
Spurs games lost - Parker 15.8 points - 42% from the field.
That would definitely help.
I never said he was - you behave like I don't watch the game or understand the game. Udoka can hit the three, and otherwise is a good standstill jumper shooter, and a garbage basket guy, just like Bowen is at his best.
The point was not that we need a "real scorer", but we do need to be playing five on five on offense to start the game so that the hole isn't too big to crawl out of. In his last 12 games, Bruce has scored 0 3 times, 1, 2 3 times, 3 twice, 6 twice and 7, which would be fine if he was playing any sort of a role in the offence, which right now he is not. He needs to be able to drill that corner three with some sort of regularity to be of any use to the team at the offensive end, and right now he's not even shooting it because he's so down on confidence.
Anyway, Bruce will continue to start because Pop trusts that he will break out of this slump, and I really hope that he's right. I'd switch things up for a few games, but what do I know?
No you did not miss because they never came. He is talking about the offensive skills of Pietrus and Udoka vs Elson and Bowen. Hope you understand now
I totally agree with that. But what do we do in the interim? Sign Mighty Mouse and hope for the best I guess...
I understand they aren't that good.
Tony might only be out a week or two (hopefully).
I understand Pietrus and Udoka are better than Elson and Bowen..
Not really, but I understand people think they are 20ppg scorers. Oh, I meant have the skill set of 20ppg scorers.
It's not so much that I'm shocked by Bruce's shooting slump, it's the fact that unlike last season his shooting slump seems to be disrupting and affecting the Spurs offense directly. Too often than not, I've seen Bruce pass on a wide open 3 pointer, attempt to drive it in the lane for a jumpshot which is not his forte and miss. I'd rather him pass the ball immediately if he's that hes ant to shoot from his fav spot. Combined with Finley's inconsistent shooting and Barry's injuries, the Spurs offense looks even more stagnant and one dimensional than I can recall in recent years.
Not really feasible though, because you still have to fill those roster spots.
Elson/Barry for Kurt Thomas? I think Barry is crucial to this team though... and what's in it for the Sonics?
If that big man plays - who cares about filling the other spots? Call up a couple of Toros.Not really feasible though, because you still have to fill those roster spots.
Exactly! Maybe I haven't been saying it well, but that's exactly what I'm talking about and have been saying the same thing in game threads all month.
Fair enough, who should we trade for and who goes with Elson?
Who thinks that? Not me. I stipulated Udoka's offensive skill set in the OP - 3s, jumpers of the curl or standing still, O boards. He's basically a catch and shoot guy, but he does it well from mid-range too, unlike Bruce.
I don't care which one they trade. None of those guys are worth keeping if it means getting back a decent big man.
I didn't see him hit anything tonight.Who thinks that? Not me. I stipulated Udoka's offensive skill set in the OP - 3s, jumpers of the curl or standing still, O boards. He's basically a catch and shoot guy, but he does it well from mid-range too, unlike Bruce.
So which big are you going after is what I'm asking?
Why are you using dumb lowblow arguments with me, mate? Udoka's 38-74 or 51% in January. You can't judge anyone on one game and you know that as well as I do.I didn't see him hit anything tonight.
Haven't really looked. My grand total of called Spur trades stands at two-thirds.
38-78. So you do want to reward him for the 0fer and bench Bowen for having the best +/- tonight. That's fine. Why not? Bowen was absolutely the problem tonight. It was so obvious.Why are you using dumb lowblow arguments with me, mate? Udoka's 38-74 or 51% in January. You can't judge anyone on one game and you know that as well as I do.
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