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dallas is giving up too much
Agreed.
dallas is giving up too much
Dallas IMO wouldn't be.
harris stackhouse and Diop?
It would help the Spurs probobly.
Give them Kidd. I think it makes them a less difficult team for the Spurs to deal with.
The guys I feel sorry for are Travis Outlaw and Jarret Jack - just as they start to find their game with a young team they obviously love, they get shipped to sville, NBA.
The trade of Harris+Diop+Stack+crap to Nets was purposed to Cuban and his response was "step away from your crack dealer"
Portland wasn't involved at the time, but same difference.
I don't see this happening. Cuban is not as trigger happy as he was before and why the would Portland do this? Nets get a steal in this one with all the young players from the Blazers coming in.
who said they are gonna play in the playoffs cus that #6 or #7 seed aint looking to sexy right now for ya.
The more I look at it,this trade looks like jibberish.
Cuban can be a little nuerotic....
ing yes! No Harris or Stack to deal with?? They kill us! Parker owns Kidd!
aj might want kidd
aj wants his playoff failures to stop before he gets fired
dude the quote in your sig is freakin raw.
then will kidd start for the west all stars team? and what happen to the east starting line up?
its not a done deal. just speculation.
you might have something here. Kidd is slower than harris. But how about jason terry?
This is a good question...So if tbe deal happens, who gets the starting spot in the All star east?
I'm not usually a violent person, but I will become one if Cuban makes a deal.
Bad deal for Dallas. Harris, Stack, and Diop give the Spurs fits. Harris gets to the lane at will, Stack is a solid scorer off the bench, and Diop plays Duncan pretty well. But they could be desperate and believe Kidd can help them win a championship in the next couple years.
I think Kidd is a little overrated. With the talent that the Nets have, there is no way that they should be 7 games under .500 in the East. Also, the Nets' half court offense has been one of the worst in the league for the last couple years. In the half court, you barely have to guard Kidd because he is such a bad shooter, and at this point in his career there is no chance he can stay in front of Parker on defense.
I'm pretty sure this won't happen for a number of reasons.
If it did, as a Spurs fan, I'd welcome the move for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is ridding the Mavericks of both Devin Harris and DeSagna Diop, who've given Parker and Duncan some difficulty at times. Kidd makes the Mavs different, but I'm not sure that he makes them better, particularly with the pieces going out.
Portland does have a need to make a move and doing this sort of a deal would allow them to deal out several parts that aren't vital to their team. I guess I can see the justification for the deal from both the Blazers' and the Nets' standpoint -- I just can't see it from the Mavs' standpoint unless they're just bent to make a deal.
As for the notion of dealing Stack, having him bought out, and then reacquiring him, I'm pretty sure the league closed that loophole a couple of years ago, but I'll admit that I can't find a source to back me up on that -- I seem to recall a rule that prohibits a team for some period of time from acquiring a player that it gave up via trade.
RU-MOR
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I don't see how the salaries match up for each of the three teams...which is a necessity since all three are over the salary cap. I need someone to break this deal down for me in list form rather than paragraph form because it's confusing as .
I'll give you my thoughts based on what I know though....
Dallas getting back Kidd is a big-time acquisition. Yes they would give up Harris, but he is a speedy score-first PG, and they already have big dollars committed to that skill set in Jason Terry. Losing Stack may be the real loss in this deal for the Mavs if they do it, but again I don't think scorers are something the Mavs are lacking. Mavs need leadership, which Dirk obviously doesn't provide, and they need a set-up guy....two roles that Kidd can take on and perform well.
New Jersey would get back a load of average players, most of which will never be difference-makers in this league. I'm guessing this wouldn't be the last move that the Nets would make....pretty sure that the only ones left in the aftermath would be RJ and Sean Williams. With this deal, the rebuilding project would officially begin in Jersey.
And I've got a LONG explanation on Portland that runs contrary to what most of you think....so it gets a seperate post.
On Portland, I honestly don't think they'd do as bad on this deal as some see it. Yes, they would get rid of a bunch of their role players in the process, but you have to look at what they'd get back now and what they'd be getting in the future. Let me 'splain....
While I like Jarrett Jack, he has been fairly solid but mostly unspectacular for this team. That lands most young PGs somewhere between $5-7M a year in this league nowadays. And if I asked, would you rather have one or two guys making $5-7M a piece (like they have in Seattle) or one kid with great potential making enough to be your no-kidding starting PG, I think most would agree that the latter is the preferred choice.
Then you have to look at the other pieces they would give up. Frye's role on this team was decided when Aldridge stepped out and had a monster year....he needs a change of scenery. And Outlaw, while he improved his jumpshot out to 18ft, is still a superskinny non-rebounding combo forward with his main skillset still being his athleticism.
Now you have to look at what's coming to the Blazers in the future. They've gpt Oden coming back next year to an already-crowded frontcourt...keep in mind they still have McRoberts on the bench and Joel Freeland overseas. Then in the backcourt and on the wings they have Sergio Rodriguez, an emerging Martell Webster, and Rudy Fernandez who will most likely be here next year.
Bottom line: They have to make some serious roster decisions at one point or another and if they can get back a potential star PG in the process versus the PG-by-committee approach, I think they do well.
not a good news
I think the problem in Jersey goes beyond Kidd. His number has been pretty consistent as of late. Even if he keeps getting triple doubles the nets just kept losing. There has been rumors that Kidd attributes the loses to Thorn's mismanagement as well as Carter ball hugging antics. Kidd just couldn't play with Carter, since he's always out to do his own stuff on the floor.
Unless they bring back K-Mart. This deal is going to happen. Thorn may have realized that trading Kidd this early would prevent his trade value from going further down. The faster this deal is done the better for the nets (Thorn should pray however that the other teams jumps on his wagon as fast as he did).
What I don't get is if the Mavs really are going to deal Harris for Kidd why this has to involve Portland?? Firstly, I don't believe the Mavs are willing to give Harris for Kidd and lose depth. And secondly, if they were why not a simple Harris+whatever for Kidd? I really don't see Portland's need to be involved and they are very high on Outlaw.
exactly, why the would they give up rebounding, blocking and an occasional 3 pt shot from outlaw for Harris.......they don't need a little guard.
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