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    Well with Tony injured and Manu looking to play all year long again (including the Olympics this year) they really need this time to recharge and rest up. It would be cool to see them there but I don't think they really care, especially Manu who already said he already had plans during that time. I do wonder if Manu will ever make another AS game again

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    Manu was a shoo-in before he injured his hand. I'm glad to see him get the snub, just to get some rest and to be ready for some heavy minutes the next couple of weeks with Parker out.

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    David West made it? He's good, but I am at least mildly surprised that he made it over BDiddy.
    Need I remind you of the 32 pts he dropped on our boys last Sat night?

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    xxxx the all star, it is just a stupid SHOW anyway

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    Baron Davis should be there. He's one of the most entertaining ballas in the NBA, along with Manu...

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    Brandon Roy
    PPG 19,3
    RPG 4,5
    APG 5,6
    SPG 0,9
    BPG 0,2
    FG% 0,460
    FT% 0,785
    3P% 0,338
    MPG 37,3

    Manu Ginobili
    PPG 19,5
    RPG 4,7
    APG 4,2
    SPG 1,6
    BPG 0,4
    FG% 0,443
    FT% 0,824
    3P% 0,401
    MPG 29,8
    damn! when you put it like that, it sure does seem that manu shoulda been an all-star over roy.

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    Good, rest is better.

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    Brandon Roy
    PPG 19,3
    RPG 4,5
    APG 5,6
    SPG 0,9
    BPG 0,2
    FG% 0,460
    FT% 0,785
    3P% 0,338
    MPG 37,3

    Manu Ginobili
    PPG 19,5
    RPG 4,7
    APG 4,2
    SPG 1,6
    BPG 0,4
    FG% 0,443
    FT% 0,824
    3P% 0,401
    MPG 29,8




    I also thought it would be between Roy and Manu for that wild card spot...since both are shooting guards. And I didn't think there would be too many point guards chosen...

    Looking at this, it's clear that Manu has a higher PER and better stats, also a lot less minutes per game...so he was definitely snubbed.

    It's too bad. I was really hoping Manu was going to be chosen...Roy is good. But I don't get how he was chosen over Manu...It makes me wonder if Manu will ever get chosen to an All Star game again...Yup, the rest is good, but it looks like his shooting hand is much better now...and this might have been his best chance at getting chosen again.

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    Brandon Roy (STARTER)
    PPG 19,3
    RPG 4,5
    APG 5,6
    SPG 0,9
    BPG 0,2
    FG% 0,460
    FT% 0,785
    3P% 0,338
    MPG 37,3

    Manu Ginobili (BENCH)
    PPG 19,5
    RPG 4,7
    APG 4,2
    SPG 1,6
    BPG 0,4
    FG% 0,443
    FT% 0,824
    3P% 0,401
    MPG 29,8
    Fixed

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    bingo. BENCH

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    Put up as many stats as you want, Tony and Manu don't deserve to be on the All Star Team.

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    Tony and Manu don't deserve to be on the All Star Team.
    Does Brandon Roy?

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    Put up as many stats as you want, Tony and Manu don't deserve to be on the All Star Team.
    Manu doesnt? why not?

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    a baldie has no place in the allstar game

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    The Spurs need both of them healthy.
    A weekend in NO, combined with the media and the game, was more toll on their bodies.
    Let them rest.
    Definitely!

    Plus, Tony is injured anyway and wouldn't be able to participate if he wanted to. I wanted them to make the team, but right now rest has to be the number one priority.

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    Definitely!

    Plus, Tony is injured anyway and wouldn't be able to participate if he wanted to.

    He'd be out clubbin with Eva and spittin' hot fire every night though...

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    He'd be out clubbin with Eva and spittin' hot fire every night though...
    We heard you the first time you posted it. You can keep your trash at out of every thread.

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    Yup, those stats are indeed BENCH stats...I don't know any other player that had ever averaged such high numbers from the bench other than Manu Ginobili.

    In fact, in another thread, I had written that Chris Paul/Steve Nash would be chosen for sure, which would have left two wild card spots open...I had mentioned that I didn't think TP, Deron Williams, Baron Davis would be chosen because that would be too many point guards...so that left basically Brandon Roy and Manu, two shooting guards. But I really felt out of these two, Manu would be more deserving due to the "bench" player status and at least 8 minutes less of playing time than Roy and higher PER.

    Kori, any idea why the coaches chose Roy over Manu?

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    Manu deserved it for his efficiency. But I didn't think he was going to make it after he got hurt. And like it or not, most coaches are now starting to think of him as a bench player. So, he isn't one of the first people they think of when voting for All Stars.

    Selfishly, I'm glad he didn't make it because I want him to rest. I wish Tim didn't have to go either.

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    Manu deserved it for his efficiency. But I didn't think he was going to make it after he got hurt. And like it or not, most coaches are now starting to think of him as a bench player. So, he isn't one of the first people they think of when voting for All Stars.

    Selfishly, I'm glad he didn't make it because I want him to rest. I wish Tim didn't have to go either.
    Manu= Overrated by Spur’s fans and underrated by everyone else. Playing off the bench has a lot to do with this fact.

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    Manu deserved it for his efficiency. But I didn't think he was going to make it after he got hurt. And like it or not, most coaches are now starting to think of him as a bench player. So, he isn't one of the first people they think of when voting for All Stars.

    Selfishly, I'm glad he didn't make it because I want him to rest. I wish Tim didn't have to go either.


    Right, but wouldn't it be even more impressive for the coaches to see such high numbers and efficiency from a bench player, as opposed to a starter? I thought this would have actually helped Manu...

    plus, I still don't know how they think of Manu as a bench player, after 3 championship rings he has...plus part of the Big Three...

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    "bench players" don't finish games and dominate other teams all the time. I doubt they think of him as bench.

    Oh yeah, and the 3 rings and gold medal.

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    Look, Manu has played injured recently as we all know. While he's getting back to his style of play, most All star ballots are based on reputation (star status) or who's hot right now. The fact of the matter is Manu and Tony have been sucking it up for the team because of injuries,Tony moreso than Manu. No average voter for these games are going to pull out stats for each player and make an unbiased decision on who should represent which conference for an all star game. It's a popularity contest and Manu has done nothing to impress say the average Atlanta Hawks fan to say "Hey Manu has kicked in' ass this year let me vote umpteenth million times for him cause he deserves it!"




    , Manu needs to heal as well as Tony give 'em the time off. Maybe we'll still have a shot to repeat...

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    West making the team surprised me a little bit because he always seems to be overlooked but with the Hornets playing as well as they are, he deserves the spot.

    Lame. 12 of the top 13 PER guys made it. Guess who was left out?

    Manu's PER is 25.08, 6th in the NBA, tops among shooting guards. Roy is 34th, at 19.91. This is embarrassing.I don't understand how Ginobili made the all-star team in '04-05 but not now when he's clearly having a better year now.
    Simple. Spurs had the best record in the league in 2005 at this point in the season. This year, the Spurs have only the 6th or 7th best record.

    Add in that Ginobili's best part of the season was early in the year and it's not too surprising he got left out. I think he deserved it but it doesn't surprise me at all. If the Spurs would have not fallen off drastically after their 17-3 start, Ginobili would have made it.

    Also, Jose Calderon was screwed. He's been the third best guard in the East, behind Wade and Billups.
    Calderon on the All-Star team was never going to happen. Which member of the East should be knocked off in place of Calderon? Calderon is a good player but I don't think even Hollinger believed he should make it. Hollinger was just pimping his PER stat, per usual.

    I don't think Roy is among the top 20 players in the West. In addition to the 11 other All-Stars, I'd take Manu, Tony, Baron Davis, Marcus Camby, Josh Howard, Shawn Marion, Al Jefferson, Tracy McGrady, and Deron Williams before I'd take Roy. He's above average in a lot of aspects, but not really good at anything.
    Roy got in because the Blazers are doing better than anyone expected and he's been the best player on their team. Not too tragic.

    Manu was a shoo-in before he injured his hand. I'm glad to see him get the snub, just to get some rest and to be ready for some heavy minutes the next couple of weeks with Parker out.
    Perfect scenario for me would be if Manu made it but then played like five minutes. This is probably the safer scenario but the historian part of me would like to see Ginobili make more than one All-Star team in his career. A lot of scrubs have made one All-Star game. You start separating yourself once you make the All-Star team a second time.

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