It has more to do with him wanting policies that allow family member brought over, and become citizens, in front of other legal immigration. You are right about most legal hispanics being more conservative than liberal, but family wins out.
Who were the "socialists"? Bush the Father raised taxes. Bush the Son signed on to the largest expansion of an en lement program in two generations. Clinton was easily the most conservative Democratic president since Wilson.
We like to pretend there are major differences among presidential candidates but that is simply not the case, other than the merely rhetorical.
McCain/Powell
This article may help put McCain's so-called liberalism into perspective.
McCain is not the enemy
By Jack Kelly
Toledo Blade Columnist
Feb. 2nd, 2008
THE race for the GOP nomination for president is all but over, save for the weeping and gnashing of teeth among conservatives.
I don't think Arizona Sen. John McCain would be a good president. He lacks the temperament for it, he has virtually no managerial experience, and the economy is, as George Will put it, "a subject with which Mr. McCain is neither conversant, nor eager to become so."
But there is a big difference between being a mediocre president - as one could argue George W. Bush has been - and being an awful one.
Many conservatives talk about Mr. McCain as if he were Satan's first cousin. What Web logger Roger Simon calls "McCain Derangement Syndrome" is as irrational and unbecoming as is the Bush Derangement Syndrome that afflicts so many liberals.
A McCain presidency means the end of conservatism and the end of the Republican party, MDS sufferers say. That this is a wildly exaggerated fear is illustrated by the spectacle of Mr. McCain and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney claiming to be conservatives, when neither of them is, and accusing the other of being a liberal, which neither of them is.
The best description of both Mr. McCain and Mr. Romney is "moderate conservative." Mr. McCain has a lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union of 82, nearly identical to that of conservative hero Fred Thompson. Mr. McCain's rating for 2006 was just 65, but that's still substantially better than Illinois Sen. Barack Obama's 8, or New York Sen. Hillary Clinton's 9.
MDS sufferers tend not to notice that until quite recently, Mr. Romney embraced the deviations from conservative orthodoxy for which they wish to cast Mr. McCain into the outer darkness. Nor do they seem upset that Mr. Romney changes campaign themes as often as he changes his shirt.
Occasional deviation from conservative orthodoxy is not for a Republican the mortal sin MDS sufferers make it out to be. While it is true no Republican can be elected president without the support of the conservative base, it is also true that no Republican can be elected with the support only of the conservative base. When moderates are no longer comfortable in the Republican party, Democrats will win all the elections.
For this conservative, the paramount issue is winning the war on terror, because if we lose, nothing else will matter very much. Arguably, Mr. McCain is better suited than anyone else to lead us to victory.
The next most important issue to me is to appoint to the federal bench judges who will follow the Cons ution. Mr. McCain supported the nominations of John Roberts and Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court, but some are trying to manufacture doubt about who he'd appoint. There's no doubt about what kind of judges Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama would choose.
With the economy softening, it is more important than ever to keep taxes low. Mr. McCain was wrong to oppose the Bush tax cuts, and his stubborn refusal to admit his mistake fuels MDS. But with Democrats in control of Congress, the issue is not whether taxes will be cut, but whether we can keep them from being raised. And on this Mr. McCain is on the side of the angels. But MDS sufferers say they'll sulk in their tents on election day. They'd rather punish Mr. McCain for sins past than protect us from a Clinton rerun or President Obama.
To gain the conservative support he needs in November, Mr. McCain must stress the issues on which he and conservatives agree. But he has a much more important decision to make.
Mr. McCain will be 72 years old Aug. 29. His mother Roberta is spry at 95, but both Mr. McCain's father and paternal grandfather died at younger ages than he is now. The person he chooses as a running mate could well be president, should Mr. McCain die in office, or retire after a single term.
Most vice presidential candidates are chosen to carry a state that might otherwise go to the other party. But the balance Mr. McCain needs isn't geographical. It's ideological and chronological - and maybe temperamental. His running mate must be solidly conservative, at least 10 years younger, qualified to be president and have expertise on the economy, where Mr. McCain falls short.
Mr. McCain could choose no better than Chris Cox, 55 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Cox), who served 17 years in the House before becoming chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. Handsome, articulate, and personable, and with no skeletons rattling around in his closet, Mr. Cox is described by friends as "scary smart." He could be the vaccine for MDS.
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I know he gets good ratings. However, most of the items that are most important to us conservatives, he is liberal on. So what. He scored good on the less important right/left issues. He failed in areas that count.
He's a politician, and with so much at stake, even though he's supposedly known as one who doesn't flip-flop on the issues, I look for him to modify to mollify.
The staunch conservative isn't going to vote for either Hillary or Obama over McCain <he's not a lock to win it just yet>, and I'm imagine his camp is aware of that.
Oh, he is a flip flopper alright. He was against tax cuts,
now he is for them. He was for amnesty for illegals, now
he says he wants secure borders, of course his state has
passed some of the toughest illegal immigration laws
going. Now he says we need secure borders. He has
worked with Kennedy, Feinstein, and Liberman on
some very controversial bills. Which most Conservatives
were dead set against.
As for voting for Obama or Clinton versus McCain, you
might be surprised. Many figure any of these folks are
going to screw the country up with their Liberal policies,
so why should be Republicans take the rap with
McCain's junk. Let Obama or Clinton do it and the
Democrats take the hit. Remember Carter. That is
what many are saying.
Working with democrats and going contrary to conservatives on certain issues doesn't make him a flip-flopper. It makes you disagree with his political stances.
McCain disagreed with the tax cuts because they weren't occupied by spending cuts, but I'm sure he would vote to extend the Bush tax cuts because he would make the effort to cut spending as President.
And his policy addition (secure the borders first) was in response to the outpouring of reaction he got about giving a path to citizenship without effectively securing the borders first. Call that flip-flopping if you want, but I call it listening to the people, admitting that the bill he co-authored had holes, and vowing to address those holes in the future.
Everything else showed your clear bias to him as a moderate republican with left-leaning policies on certain issues. You have every right to feel that way, but it doesn't make him a flip-flopper.
Of course I am bias toward him. I thought I made
that abundantly clear. I am a Conservative, he is
not, he is a Liberal, call him what he is. He is not
moderate or a Republican, and he as you state a
very much left leaning politician.
Why should I compromise my principles. Just
because he has none, doesn't mean many who are
against him doesn't.
Good gosh, the reason I put the article out to begin
with was to show how he seriously considered going
over to the Dimms. shhhsssssshhh. Some guy
with real principles.
Wait, you're bashing McCain as a flip-flopper and supporting that pillar of consistency Romney?
McCain is what a true republican is.
Exactly...
THIS was the point I was trying to push Xray. You may not agree with McCain's philosophies, but calling him a flip-flopper while backing someone who hasn't taken a conviction-based stance in his entire career is rediculous.
Where did I say that? I was supporting Romney.
You didn't say that, did you? You just said it, for the
first time.
Whom are you supporting?
Huckabee?
Ron Paul?
Hillary?
Uh no.McCain is what a true republican is.
I never supported suppressing free speech.
Write in for Alfred Neuman, Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse
or ChumpDumper.
Will you accept if nominated?
So you haven't made up your mind yet? Neither have many others.
Sure. Sounds like fun.
Would you stop being a Chump again?
Romney has changed his position a a few issues, and that was also under changing cir stance. So what. He has flipped. Has he flopped back?
He doesn't change his position back and forth like others do. Flip-Flop does not apply to him.
Can it, or back up the back and forth part.
I guess Mitt is your boy since you just your pants at the slightest criticism of him.
He'll say and pay whatever it takes to get elected.
Quit your crying.
Seriously, the man can't even stick to one favorite novel.
Battlefield Earth ring a bell? So you are saying he was just for these issues like gay rights and abortion before he was against them.
Yes I like him.
I guess Mitt is your boy since you just your pants at the slightest criticism of him.
He'll say and pay whatever it takes to get elected.
Quit your crying.
Can you address what I said? Can you show him to have Flip-Flopped, rather than a few single flips?
I didn't think so.
Put up or shut up.
Hey if you're comfortable with a guy whose positions on important issues depend solely on what office he is running for and the voters in each election, that's fine.
What's wrong? Can you not answer a simple question?
Hey if you're comfortable with a guy whose positions on important issues depend solely on what office he is running for and the voters in each election, that's fine.
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