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Phil = 9 rings
Pop = 4 rings
Of course you need talent to win. Pop had Duncan, Robinson, Ginobli, and Parker to work with. Nothing to scoff at.
First of all, it won't be a problem. Buss will pay because unlike Shaq, Bynum's age and/or declining play won't be a factor when his contract is up, which isn't for two years anyway, and by then Odom won't be a Laker as his contract will have expired by then. And, Gasol makes $13 million this year and $15 million next year. None of that matters anyway because Buss will pay the luxury tax for a roster that has talent and whose core players still aren't past their prime.
Any argument about salary concerns or luxury tax issues is really just trying to downplay the magnitude of this trade.
Phil = 9 rings
Pop = 4 rings
Of course you need talent to win. Pop had Duncan, Robinson, Ginobli, and Parker to work with. Nothing to scoff at.
Pffft, seriously LAK will have no problems going over budget, ask the Knicks.
Right because Kobe, Bynum, and Pau = Curry, Randolph, Marbury
layoff the crack pipe son
Again anyone questioning Phil Jackson's talent needs to get their heads checked. I can name numerous teams with tons of talent that have gone nowhere (PHX for example).
If you give Phil talent he gives you championships. 9 rings is no mistake. And yes he is better than Pop because of this. Results are all that matters. Pop has yet to do it on another team without Duncan.
LMAO Lakers already overhyped as West champs. Remember when Lakers had Shaq, Kobe, Malone, and Payton
You need talent to win les. No coach could have taken the Laker team's over the past 3-4 years to a championship.
I am not sold yet. Gasol has very good stats, but there are many more PF's who have a better presence during the game.h, Dwight, Al Jefferson,
But Dwight and Jefferson don't play alongside Kobe and Bynum. That's what makes this deal so great. Gasol won't have nearly the same pressure he did when he was on Memphis.
You can't double team Gasol, Bynum, and Kobe. They are going to be a nightmare matchup to contain. The Spurs are perhaps the only team that has the personell to do so, but given their woes offensively you gotta wonder if that will be enough.
Some players are ineffective when they don't have the ball in their hands. This will be the first time this occurs in Gasol's career. How many people thought that J Kidd would make VC unstoppable?? The answer is a lot, but it did not turn out that way.
I'm saving this thread to own the rest of you later.
This team is better than the Shaq&Kobe Lakers with the triple threat of Bynum, Kobe, and Gasol. The bench is better, Kobe is better, and Bynum+Gasol > Shaq.
We're still 1 year out for serious contention.
The simplest way I can put what this trade means to the Lakers.
Before we were pretenders, now we are contenders.
No more Mitch bashing from this Lakers fan. That was a great trade. Big for Big, that's the way you do it.
We'll see how this team actually plays together before making predictions.
Kobe has consistently played better on teams where it is clear that HE is the man - which is why Kobe has played so well this year.
When clutch time comes, and Kobe misses shots and Gasol is complaining he didn't get the ball, I see history repeating itself.
When will the Lakers learn that throwing together stars does not make for a TEAM?
This team looks great on paper, but so did the Kobe-Shaq-GP-Karl Malone team, and we see how well that turned out. The Lakers were actually playing WELL, and winning, and then they go an blow up their chemistry by adding a player who used to be the star on another team? Have they learned NOTHING about Kobe's ego?
Also, as others have noted, Kwame Brown was actually BETTER defensively. And everyone knows when push comes to shove, it's defense that wins championships.
So yeah, the Lakers may be poised to be a playoff team for years to come. But that doesn't mean they're poised to be a champion again.
it. Just beat the Suns and or Dallas.
Spurs have too many enemies we want to DAGGER to worry about Lakers right now.
Whoa, whoa, whoa...easy there.
Congratulations on acquiring the softer big in the NBA. You're soon to find out the guy can't guard a chair.
True, we have to see them on the court but having the best coaching staff in the league will be an easy transition for this team.
I disagree with the Kobe statement. He played with Shaq for 3 years and had some of his greatest moments. Winning 3 les was the biggest achievement for kobe and he is at that frame of mind now that he wants to win more.
Kwame was better defensively, but with Bynum, his defense was expendable. Gasol brings more to the team than Brown would have with a healthy Bynum.
There is no chemistry issues, we traded 2 reserves. The triangle will make sure of that. This move is even better than the JO deal that never materialized. The deepest team in the league, just got deeper. This team is a championship caliber team more than ever this season.
btw, the 4 hall of famers that did not win the le dealt with injuries. No one ever seems to want to admit that. They too, when healthy were dominating the league. I'm sure no one is putting Gasol in the Malone/Payton caliber group.
Mitch was just on the Tom Leykis show live with all the details
Can someone please explain to me how this trade could possibly be bad?
Lakers lose Kwame. Addition by subtraction. Lakers acquire a legitimate PF player whose skillset is perfect for the triangle. This trade makes sense on so many levels, I find it laughable that anyone would think chemistry issues would arise. These team went through the worst possible disaster this offseason and they didn't fold and collapse like everyone thought they would. It only brought them closer and so far they have exceeded everyone's expectations.
It is anything but a bad trade. Anyone who acts like this trade isnt anything big or good is in denial. They are scared hoping chemistry problems happen and act like Gasol wont help them in the playoffs. Last time I checked, Phil Jackson is coaching that team. Phil is awesome at being on the downlow when controversy hits his team. They have a way of working out in the long run. A healthy Lakers team is right there in the class of the elites. In fact I would put them over Dallas/Phoenix now.
I agree with this. They won't win every le, nor are they even guaranteed to even beat out the biggies in the West. My angle on this is Lakers-Celtics is back, 21st century style.
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