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No way I'd give up Mahinmi for Tyrus.
To me the trade that makes more sense is Thomas for Elson + Mahinmi + a first round pick.
I don't see Bulls giving up so soon Tyrus Thomas who was their 4th pick.
No way I'd give up Mahinmi for Tyrus.
Spurs have interest in Thomas, doesn't mean the Bulls have interest in anything the Spurs have to offer.
I think the JR Smith mention is more likely.
He's definitely a small ball PF, but I'm having trouble figuring out what his trade value could be right now.
As I said above, I wouldn't mind letting Elson go for Tyrus, but I can't imagine Paxon pulling the trigger on this deal.
Didn't Jim Paxon play for us at one time? Maybe we could use our inside connection and pull a deal?
I'm sure we'd have to throw in at least one pick.
If Spurs do a trade for Thomas I don't see them keeping both Splitter and Mahinmi. Having 3 young bigmen (Thomas, Splitter and Mahinmi) on a contender seems to be too much.
Even if I really like Mahinmi, Thomas seems to be a significant better project than him.
Elson + both 2nd rounders for Tyrus?
I agree, I'd trade Mahinmi in a package involving Tyrus.
I'd try as hard as if they are trading with Chicago for Nocioni though.
Why in the world does Chicago want to trade Thomas? The only thing I can figure is his at ude is so dismal, but it can't be that bad, can it?
I can't see what the Spurs have beyond Splitter, and he alone wouldn't net. Trading Thomas now would be a big admission of error on Chicago's part (taking him over Aldridge), compounded by another error (trading him).
pull that trigger nowTrade scenarios, salary-knowledged members?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...24~4&te=&cash=
I think some of you would like this one.
Should add: if the Spurs had Scola in fold, Bulls would probably do Scola for Thomas straight up.
But we traded him for nothing, etc...
The Bulls apparently weren't interested in him before.
I agree
But there is some odd precedent.
Spurs got a 4th pick of the first round before, after he had only played one year (Antonio Daniels).
And all they had to give up to get him was a late first (Felipe Lopez) and Carl Herrera.
If the Bulls are looking to cut their losses, you never know . . .
Oh yes. I'd definitely approve of a trade for Tyrus Thomas. I think he has huge potential ... his problem is at ude. Put him in San Antonio with all the veterans and leadership and this kid could turn into a stud.
While Thomas has said he'd want to play small forward at some point, he's definitely a full time power forward on the Spurs. He's a tad bit short but his athleticism would more than make up for it. He couldn't play small forward for the Spurs at this point. Perhaps in the future if he were to add a reliable jumper but right now he's a big in the Spurs system.
The best part about adding him would be his shotblocking. In the Spurs' defensive schemes, he could average David Robinson amount of blocked shots. Add in the fact that he's a better rebounder than anyone on the team outside of Duncan and I'd be 100% for such a move.
I've seen him on the Bulls a lot and the Bulls just don't have the personnel to let him succeed. He's not a scorer but when they play him next to Ben Wallace or Joakim Noah, they rely on him to score ... which he isn't good at doing. On the Spurs, he'd just be a guy who would score trash baskets off of offensive rebounds and good ball movement ... and that'd fit right in with his strengths. Defensively, he could block shots, rebound and he's quick enough to keep on the court against small ball.
All that said, I don't think the Spurs have enough to get him. The Bulls would have to be high on someone like Mahinmi or Splitter for the Spurs to have a chance. Thomas doesn't make enough money for the Bulls just to salary dump him. Elson, Mahinmi and a first makes sense for the Spurs ..... but the Bulls would want more unless they think Mahinmi is a can't-miss prospect.
Thomas would be a very nice fit for this season and the future ... but realistically I don't think the Spurs have a chance at landing him.
Why are most people ready to give up Mahinmi for Thomas?
Is Thomas THAT much better than him?
Yes. Thomas has shown an ability to rebound and block shots impressively at the NBA level. Mahinmi hasn't shown an ability to rebound or block shots impressively on the DLeague level.
on a side note:
Chicago has seen Mahinmi for awhile, as indicated in this post from the European Prospects blog, so maybe they could be interested after Mahinmi's d-league progress:
2007-02-01
http://europeanprofiles.blog.de/2007...couted~1663867
. . . Besides others, Memphis and Chicago have been present to see Ian Mahinmi finally having an interesting game, especially in defense, where he showed great speed on the help defense and on double teams. He finished the game with 6pts (100%) 3rebs and 2blks. . .
have you seen tyrus when he gets extended minutes the last year and a half? kid has shown to be a more than competent (ie, really good) rebounder and shot blocker at the nba level already. he has STUD written all over him. id cut off a toe to get him on the spurs at a discounted rate. if you havent gotten to see him play, then go pull up his game logs for this year. then look at the games in which he gets 20+ minutes. kid just needs some PT (and not having to fill the offensive void caused by that bulls front line).
tyrus and ian arent close on the potential or trade value scale.
Well since those are good points I guess I'm leaning towards Thomas then.
Still want Mahinmi to stay though.
I'd think Chicago would be more interested in a more traditional and more skilled center, splitter.
What do people think about Noah? LJ, would you do a Noah for Elson/Mahinmi 1st rounder? I like his energy.
Because he's been in the doghouse (for what reason I don't know). They seem to prefer Noah, and they have similar games. Tyrus is an athletic freak - just insane athleticism. He's part of the reason (Noah too) why we're 0-3 against his team; we weren't playing the guy who had the speed and athleticism to compete with him then. He has pretty good D, actually - the Spurs could probably use him.
I'm not that high on Thomas. He has a huge upside but he has a quite big chance to end up as a bust.
I'm not even sure that I would like a trade where Splitter is traded for Thomas.
And as said by others, Spurs' chance to get Thomas should be around 1%.
what are Thomas's chances of turning into Stromile Swift?
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