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    Why would Suns make such a huge change when they are leading the Western Conference? There is no way in this deal is happening.

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

    Report: Shaquille O'Neal could be getting traded

    By TIM REYNOLDS, AP Sports Writer

    MIAMI (AP) -- Shaquille O'Neal is prepared for the Miami Heat to trade him, a confidant of the 14-time All-Star center told The Associated Press on Tuesday night.

    O'Neal's associate, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to reveal anything publicly, indicated a move could be imminent.

    "Shaq thinks something will happen," the associate said.

    The Miami Herald reported earlier Tuesday that the Heat are in "serious and ongoing" trade negotiations with the Phoenix Suns. A Heat spokesman said the team had no comment, and several Suns officials didn't immediately return phone calls from The AP.

    The Herald report said the Suns would send Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks to Miami in exchange for O'Neal, who is averaging a career-low 14.2 points and has been sidelined for the past two weeks by a lingering hip injury.

    When asked last week about another report that a Shaq trade was possible, Heat coach Pat Riley said, "Not true."

    It isn't known if O'Neal -- who has two full seasons remaining after this one on his $100 million, five-year contract -- would welcome a trade.

    A four-time NBA champion, O'Neal entered this season talking about how he wanted to win at least one more le, saying his "legacy" wouldn't be complete unless he left the game with at least five rings.

    If he's going to get No. 5 this year, he'd have to go elsewhere.

    The Heat have lost 19 of their last 20 games and have the NBA's worst record at 9-37 -- meaning the 2006 NBA champions are almost a lock to miss the postseason. Phoenix, meanwhile, entered Tuesday with a 1 1/2 -game lead over New Orleans and Dallas in the race for the best record in the Western Conference.

    To this point, O'Neal's year has been largely forgettable.

    Miami's record has plummeted, O'Neal is going through a divorce and his scoring average is nearly 11 1/2 points below his 25.6 career mark. He suffered a bruised hip on Dec. 22 and has missed four of the past five weeks while trying to recover.

    The team said he was undergoing another MRI exam on Tuesday, presumably to further determine the extent of the injury, and O'Neal didn't speak before leaving Miami's practice. The Heat play at Detroit on Wednesday.

    Last Friday, O'Neal said he and Riley have not discussed any trade possibilities.

    "He hasn't spoken to me," O'Neal said at the time. "He hasn't talked about it. I've been in the league 15 years. I've seen it all, been through it all. I've just got to sit back."

    Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said on his weekly radio show Tuesday night that the story caught him by surprise.

    "The trade deadline's coming up so I'm sure there's talk all over the place," he said. "In our day and age now, you make one of those phone calls or answer a phone call everybody in the world knows about it. Other than normal business, I don't know anything that's going on."

    Asked if any deal was close, D'Antoni said "No, no, no."

    Marion asked to be traded before the season began but has avoided talk of the subject since then. He is set to make $17 million next season, the final year of his contract, but can opt out of the deal and become a free agent.

    Suns owner Robert Sarver said two weeks ago that none of the core players would be traded this season.

    Neither Sarver nor Phoenix general manager Steve Kerr returned messages left on their cell phones.

    AP sports writer Bob Baum in Phoenix contributed to this report.

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    The more I think about this...the more it is worrying me. =/

    They can run and gun without shaq. But now with Shaq (a healthy one) they have someone they can feed in the half court. This is either going to be a huge bust, or a genius move by the Suns.

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    The more I think about this...the more it is worrying me. =/

    They can run and gun without shaq. But now with Shaq (a healthy one) they have someone they can feed in the half court. This is either going to be a huge bust, or a genius move by the Suns.
    shaq would get in Amares way in the paint and plus shaq has had problems finishing at the rim bc his knees and hips are shot. if shaq somehow dominates once again, just put his ass on the line and watch the bricks stack up. slowing the pace down would hurt i think barbosa the most bc he excels with his speed in the open floor and open 3's off the break

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    The more I think about this...the more it is worrying me. =/

    They can run and gun without shaq. But now with Shaq (a healthy one) they have someone they can feed in the half court. This is either going to be a huge bust, or a genius move by the Suns.
    I am leaning toward a huge bust. Trading away the best defender on a team thats already bad defensively? Thats like the nuggets trading away marcus camby.

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    I am leaning toward a huge bust. Trading away the best defender on a team thats already bad defensively? Thats like the nuggets trading away marcus camby.
    But that team doesn't revolve around defense.

    Plus, Shaq plays Duncan well.

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    shaq would get in Amares way in the paint and plus shaq has had problems finishing at the rim bc his knees and hips are shot. if shaq somehow dominates once again, just put his ass on the line and watch the bricks stack up. slowing the pace down would hurt i think barbosa the most bc he excels with his speed in the open floor and open 3's off the break
    I think Shaq's shortcomings in Miami might be in big part due to him being the 1 or 2 option on any given play.

    In Phoenix they might not need more then a handful of quality possesions out of him in the game.


    Clog up the lane on defense, and a few half court possessions here and there is all Phoenix needs out of him.

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    ESPN News just reported that Marion says he is all for leaving, and that this trade is starting to look like its going down

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    I can't wait to see Shaq in the Suns O.

    Make it happen, God.

    Please?

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    ESPN News just reported that Marion says he is all for leaving, and that this trade is starting to look like its going down
    ya like is said earlier in the thread...after hearing this trade rumor, Marion has offically checked out from the suns mentally. if this doenst go through he will for sure be dealt bc he would tear the team apart

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    Marion has been mentally checking out of the Suns for a long time now.
    He's complained of feeling like he doesn't get his due in the big 3 conversation of Nash, Amare and Marion.
    He's been more and more vocal about not being happy over the last couple of seasons.

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    Good deal for the Heat if this happens. They can reload with Wade and Marion. Just start adding more pieces and they'll be fine. Now the suns....hmmmnnn...they do get bigger....and more injured.......

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    I would be ok with the deal if Haslem were thrown in there... and Chris Quinn.

    Haslem can play defense and rebound as well as Marion. He has a much better midrange shot as well.

    If it were just Shaq, then I officially begin suicide watch tomorrow.

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    I'll be honest.

    Marion never really scared me. But the thought of a rejuvinated Shaq, in a system where they need minimal out of him only in key situations? That has me a bit worried.

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    I think Shaq's shortcomings in Miami might be in big part due to him being the 1 or 2 option on any given play.

    In Phoenix they might not need more then a handful of quality possesions out of him in the game.


    Clog up the lane on defense, and a few half court possessions here and there is all Phoenix needs out of him.
    You do know about the 3-second rule, don't you? Shaq is too slow to be the defender he was 10 years ago. He just physically can't rotate quick enough or get over to provide help defense.

    In all honesty, I still think Shaq has a little left in the tank. And I think he could help the right team. But not Phoenix. It's just not a good fit at all. They're fast, he's slow.

    Gasol going to the Lakers, on the other hand, is a brilliant pick-up. He makes the Lakers even more dangerous, and they gave up nothing to get him!

    Phoenix will lose Shawn Marion in this deal, and that means they lose one of their leading rebounders, their best defender, one of their fast-break threats, and one of their 3pt threats.

    i really pray that Phoenix does this deal and seals their fate....

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    You do know about the 3-second rule, don't you? Shaq is too slow to be the defender he was 10 years ago. He just physically can't rotate quick enough or get over to provide help defense.

    In all honesty, I still think Shaq has a little left in the tank. And I think he could help the right team. But not Phoenix. It's just not a good fit at all. They're fast, he's slow.

    Gasol going to the Lakers, on the other hand, is a brilliant pick-up. He makes the Lakers even more dangerous, and they gave up nothing to get him!

    Phoenix will lose Shawn Marion in this deal, and that means they lose one of their leading rebounders, their best defender, one of their fast-break threats, and one of their 3pt threats.

    i really pray that Phoenix does this deal and seals their fate....
    Don't get me wrong. I think I agree with you. It's probably a bad deal for Phoenix.

    But my thing is...the possibility that it could turn into a genius deal, just scares me. That team with marion never really worried me. But with Nash / Amare / Shaq...that would make me think twice before writing them off.

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    Shaq would give the Suns the ability to play up or down tempo for the first time in forever. Marion is going to opt out and leave anyway, the Suns might as well get something that might help them this year.

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    Shaq would be an ideal reserve for my Rockets tho. my team is built for a slow-paced offense with a dominant big man anywayz... He can still play 15 mins/gm backing-up Yao right?

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    ESPN News just reported that Marion says he is all for leaving, and that this trade is starting to look like its going down
    Dear Shawn,

    You won't be a fan favorite in Miami either, bag. No matter where you go, there will always be another player better and more likable than you.

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    I Dont Know What To Think Any More!!

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    Bucher just said on SportsCenter that Shaq is headed to PHX in the morning for a physical

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    Shaq would be an ideal reserve for my Rockets tho. my team is built for a slow-paced offense with a dominant big man anywayz... He can still play 15 mins/gm backing-up Yao right?
    EXACTLY! Shaq would make sense on the Rockets roster. He'd also make sense on the Spurs, as much as a lot of Spurs fans might not want to hear that. He needs to be on a team built for the half-court, and a team that plays team defense.

    Elson, Horry, and Bonner for Shaq? Please??

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    Bucher just said on SportsCenter that Shaq is headed to PHX in the morning for a physical
    OMG!!!!!!!!

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    Greg Antony loves the deal for PHX, said they werent gonna win it with the team they currently have

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    LOL, Im glad for the suns. This move will explode all over their faces, like..............

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