with all the trades, what's our repeat chance now?

[T Park]

I'm still worried about a possible Kidd to Dallas deal, because he's a guy that can make teams better without imposing his scoring will on the game.

Like I said though, the Spurs have a little time and some opportune contracts to shore up some of their weaker areas....

If Dallas gets Kidd, they have to trade away either Terry, Diop, Stackhouse, Devin harris, or a combo of all em.

You think The Spurs wouldn't be better against them if they traded those guys for Kidd?

[Extra Stout]

How is someone a bandwagoner just because they are not sure if we are gonna win a championship?

Oh, joy, here comes Mr. Measured and Rational Fan to come defend the spineless nancies.

i was pretty much resigned to not repeating

Yes, this is definitely a reasonable at ude to have. The Spurs are a whopping two games out of the top seed in the Western Conference, so clearly it's time to give up on the season. And, oh my! A team that hasn't gone past the first round in four years just improved! It's over! Cash in those season tickets! And, even worse, another rival just gave up their most versatile player for an immobile 36-year-old former superstar in steep decline! All is lost! This is definitely not a knee-jerk reaction!

So, I want to thank you, ATXSPUR, for setting me straight. I understand now that not quitting on the Spurs in February is a totally Pollyanna at ude. Just like last year, when they were 33-18 and looking mighty old. All the wise and rational fans had resigned themselves to the end of the Spurs' run.

Not losing faith in your team is exactly the same as believing they're going to go undefeated the rest of the way. You in no way made an asinine strawman there. I'm glad that when you call other people out, you don't make stupid assumptions or put words in other people's mouths. You're a Real Man of Genius.

So today we salute you, Mr. Wise and Rational Spurs Fan

Mr. Wise and Rational Spurs Fan

You rise up to back those who preach gloom and doom about their team... three months before the playoffs

The sky is falling

Most would hesitate before exposing themselves as even bigger bags than the quitters, but not you, O Captain of Condescension.

They're just being realistic

And sure enough, come June, you'll be back to explain how logically, the Spurs' march to the le should have been obvious all along.

It's easy if you use reason

So crack open a Bud Light, Mr. Wise and Rational Spurs fan, and never fear that if you stand in the middle of the road too long, you'll get run over.

Mr. Wise and Rational Spurs Fan

[AFBlue]

If Dallas gets Kidd, they have to trade away either Terry, Diop, Stackhouse, Devin harris, or a combo of all em.

You think The Spurs wouldn't be better against them if they traded those guys for Kidd?

Harris is not better than Kidd.

Harris + Diop is not better than Kidd.

Harris + Diop + Stack is a tough call....but yeah I'd say Kidd is better.

Kidd
Jones
Howard
Nowitzki
Dampier

Reserves:
Terry
Hassell
George
Bass
Howard
JJ Barea
Ager

Still a decent team at the top and they don't lose much at the bottom.

[Princess Pimp]

Re: with all the trades, what's our repeat chance now?

Slim to none

[spurster]

It's more likely that the Lakers and Suns will be better next season rather than this season. It takes time to play well as a team, especially championship-level play.

[AFBlue]

It's more likely that the Lakers and Suns will be better next season rather than this season. It takes time to play well as a team, especially championship-level play.

Yes to the Lakers....mostly likely no to the Suns.

One more year for the Suns is just another year that Shaq has to get older, fatter, and less effective.

[Bruno]

Even without a trade, I like Spurs chances to repeat.
The big 3 is at his best and role players looked better than last year.

Last year other contenders aren't better this year than last year. Lakers and Celtics are raising but I think Spurs can beat them in a 7 games serie.

[td4mvp21]

I haven't expected them to repeat, and I don't think we should until it happens. We've won it three other times and failed every time. The West is very tough this year, tougher than any other year in recent history. Parker's health is very questionable at this point. IMO, we need one player that can come in and make an impact, preferably a big man. I think we can repeat if everything falls in to place, but I don't think we can count on that yet. We'll have to see come playoff time.

[jrmp317]

I still take a healthy Spurs team over anybody in 7 games. That being said, I hope they can get healthy come playoff time.

[E20]

LMAO At Extra Stout and ATXSpur, wasted their time writing a 5 page essay about who is a real fan or not.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

15%

[timmy21_4rings]

100% if Spurs play to their potential.

Lakers need time to become a better..They will be hard to beat but spurs will win a 7 game series.

Even in the current form, Spurs will beat Suns with the best of this year's Shaq.

[lefty]

i was pretty much resigned to not repeating, but on top of parker's troubles and all the movement, i feel even less hopeful for our chances.

Check my signature........

[yourcheatinheart]

don't worry. i'm sure with the league and stern having your back you guys should have no problem repeating

[td4mvp21]

don't worry. i'm sure with the league and stern having your back you guys should have no problem repeating

Yeah I know, that's why we've won the last 5 championships and have had successful repeats after every championship

[remingtonbo2001]

With all the trades, what's our repeat chance now?

The same as it was at the start of the season.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

don't worry. i'm sure with the league and stern having your back you guys should have no problem repeating

So then it's pointless to root for the Suns now, isn't it?
You're more than welcome to join the Spurs bandwagon, .

[yourcheatinheart]

Yeah I know, that's why we've won the last 5 championships and have had successful repeats after every championship

[WildcardManu]

don't worry. i'm sure with the league and stern having your back you guys should have no problem repeating

don't cheat yourself

[SAGambler]

Theoretically 1 in 30.....

Realistically I would say 1 in 7 or 8.

If everyone is healthly going into the playoffs, the odds go up. Probably 1 in 4.

[SAGambler]

ST is an amazing place.
And the varied opinions, at udes, and fan bases make it all the better.

Long ago I remember Kori saying that she didn't want ST to be just a Spurs fans, go team go, nothing negative allowed forum.
She's succeeded impressively.
By allowing people to bring their own takes, no matter what team they like or whether their takes are positive or negative, keeps this board jumping.
And makes it a lot of fun to be here.

For sure. Most forums only want posters that preach to the choir. The kind that get together after a game and have a circle jerk.

Not any fun.

[td4mvp3]

Yes, this is definitely a reasonable at ude to have. The Spurs are a whopping two games out of the top seed in the Western Conference, so clearly it's time to give up on the season. And, oh my! A team that hasn't gone past the first round in four years just improved! It's over! Cash in those season tickets! And, even worse, another rival just gave up their most versatile player for an immobile 36-year-old former superstar in steep decline! All is lost! This is definitely not a knee-jerk reaction!
et run over.

Mr. Wise and Rational Spurs Fan

yeesh, you act like the spurs didn't get very big gifts from the basketball gods when the team that had won 67 games and beaten the spurs, legitimately, twice in the regular season after the season in which that same team came into san antonio and managed to win a 7-game series (even with a choke in the finals) got knocked out in the first round; that a suns team that walloped the spurs by 20 in game 2 of their series and beat the spurs in san antonio went down in flames by a few points without stoudamire and diaw (at the very least, maybe they pull out the game 5 win); and that the final two opponents on the way to the le hadn't gotten that far in their current incarnations and surprised everyone that they had. i don' t expect a repeat because i was stunned they won it last year and attribute it mostly to the compe ion, not the spurs' overwhelming play. yeah, we're a few games out of the top spot but if our compe ion had been stouter (wins over knicks, arenas-less/butler-less wizards, and deplorable indiana do not inspire) could just as easily have been losses against better squads. the argument only goes so far, considering they did beat the suns, but your rationale that the spurs proved their mettle only goes so far as well. i think they got lucky this year, nothing points to that chance last year. and none of that takes into account parker's injury and barry's injury.

[DazedAndConfused]

For sure. Most forums only want posters that preach to the choir. The kind that get together after a game and have a circle jerk.

Not any fun.

This is hands down the best NBA forum there is out there. Fans from all teams coming together talking about each other. Doesn't get any better than this.

When the playoffs heat up this place will be nuts.

[BonnerDynasty]

yeesh, you act like the spurs didn't get very big gifts from the basketball gods when the team that had won 67 games and beaten the spurs, legitimately, twice in the regular season after the season in which that same team came into san antonio and managed to win a 7-game series (even with a choke in the finals) got knocked out in the first round; that a suns team that walloped the spurs by 20 in game 2 of their series and beat the spurs in san antonio went down in flames by a few points without stoudamire and diaw (at the very least, maybe they pull out the game 5 win); and that the final two opponents on the way to the le hadn't gotten that far in their current incarnations and surprised everyone that they had. i don' t expect a repeat because i was stunned they won it last year and attribute it mostly to the compe ion, not the spurs' overwhelming play. yeah, we're a few games out of the top spot but if our compe ion had been stouter (wins over knicks, arenas-less/butler-less wizards, and deplorable indiana do not inspire) could just as easily have been losses against better squads. the argument only goes so far, considering they did beat the suns, but your rationale that the spurs proved their mettle only goes so far as well. i think they got lucky this year, nothing points to that chance last year. and none of that takes into account parker's injury and barry's injury.

Good non-homer take

[batboy]

i don' t expect a repeat because i was stunned they won it last year and attribute it mostly to the compe ion, not the spurs' overwhelming play.

So all of a sudden Dallas is solid again, and Detroit plays with effort? Or have you already evaluated the new Lakers and Suns and have us losing to them? I'm awfully curious as to who you have ousting us from the playoffs in a seven game series.

Wait better yet -- who do you have winning it all? From now on it would be nice if every spurs fan on this board that doesn't like the spurs to repeat were forced to pick a champion instead of just the contrapositive.