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Again guys HGH is not a ing steroid.
Hilarious hes tellng the children that steroids are bad, the funny thing is HGH is not steroids and he didnt say about HGH being bad for the kiddies.
Again guys HGH is not a ing steroid.
Um...they do make you hit a ball further...they do make you run faster.
Did Clemens start throwing harder? No he didn't.
I think there is ample evidence. That they do improve performance, they make you bigger, stronger, faster...none of those things really happened to Clemens.No evidence of this being true or proven.
My point is that even if he did do them...how much did they help him? Probably not at all...A lot of players have said they've taken them because they THOUGHT they it would improve performance. Doesn't mean it did.
He didn't start throwing the ball harder...he used to have a 100 MPH fastball...he hasn't had that in 15 years. And he had that 100 MPH fastball way back in college. His velocity was more or less declining a little every year.
I think McNamee is still lying... at least partially. I believe he did inject Clemens with HGH and steroids, but he's still hiding stuff. He ought to just come completely clean.
It pretty much is...it's just not an anabolic steroid. It enables you to build muscle more easily...just like steroids.
What stats were those?
Did his strike out/ strike out ratio improve?
No it didn't.
About the only thing that improved was the amount of walks he was allowing....that has nothing to do with throwing the ball harder.
They may have just improved his ability to stay healthy or to recover from injury at a faster rate.
So basically...the stuff that doctors will prescribe them for
It's not like he was a catcher that all of a sudden jacked 35 HR , scored a +100R, +100RBI and stole a buttload of bases and won an MVP or anything...
"The only reason we had this hearing today is because Roger Clemens insisted upon it"
I'm not saying Roger didn't do it...but damned if his approach isn't a good one...
That Roger...he aint going down like all the rest
He's Roger ing Clemens es.
He's also going to teach that sucker Mcnamee a lesson about squealing...because you don't ing squeal. Mcnamee is going to pay for breaking the code.
that's what's known as a mexican standoff...
neither side will be able to prove the other side is lying.
government oversight committee....nice job of overstepping your authority you bunch of narcissists.
this was a total waste of time and our tax dollars.
Steroids have been banned in the Olympics forever, althetes have been stripped of their medals for using them. It is a matter of fact that they improve performance any scientist that has knowledge of their effects will tell you this. Big Mac did not hit 70 HR's because he is just that good.
everybody used to about the east germans.
my, how times have changed.
God given talent/ability + steroids = some performance
MAC didn't hit 70 homers JUST because he was juicing.
No kidding but he was probbaly juicing his whole career and would not have hit nearly as many HR's had he not been. Remember Ben Johnson who got his Olympic gold taken away from him in the Olympics?? Not a coincendence that he could not beat Carl Lewis until he took steroids.
If you read about HGH you will learn that among other things the biggest benefit can be in recovery time after working out or pitching performances. It allows you to be right back in top form in a relatively fast period. Traditionally good pitchers start out pitching great for about the first half of the season and slowly their body breaks down, injuries occur or their performance drops off. HGH allows them fast recovery so they do not have that major drop off and less risk of inury. So from that perspective it does help a pitcher, also clemens head as drasticly increased in size just like Bonds did, which is another sign/symptom of using HGH.
For the doubters if you think his butt buddy Pe e would just make up a lie about Clemens i ask you why? Why would he snitch on his best friend or make up a lie? He was covering his own ass thats why, he was told to tell the truth so he doesnt go to prison, which is what appear to be a possibility for the rocket.
. . . Rafael Palmeiro.
Andy for sure did not lie. This was all about Clemens putting on a song and dance trying to save his legacy. He had the most to lose in this whole mess. He is regarded as one of the best pitchers of all time and was going to the hall of fame. He was trying anything he could to keep that intact and not end up like Bonds, who will never be seen as anything more than a disgrace, as Rose who for other reasons is seen as a disgrace. Clemens is not going to clear his name, he is dead buried in terms of his legacy. I don't know if he will go to jail because i am sure his lawyers schooled him like crazy as to what not to say to avoid prosecution but the hall of fame and his legacy are DONE!!
. . . Rafael Palmeiro.
Brady Anderson came to mind as well..
...its quite obvious clemens used HGH or steroids, you can't make a good argument against it. and its obvious it helped him, saying otherwise is uninformed and reaching. dude cheated and is a liar...period.
Yep, i am a Yankees fan and i knew all along that Pet te was going to bury him once he admitted to HGH use. Pet te being a Texan as kid worshipped the ground Clemens walked on before he joined the Yankees. Once Clemens came to the Yanks and they hit it off, Andy completely overhauled his training routine to that of Roger's. Clemens in interviews used to arrogantly state how "Other pitchers can't hang with Andy and me in our workouts together". Once telling a story of how Ted Lilly, who used to pitch for the Yanks, tried to work out with them one day and couldn't "Keep his lunch down". Everyone knew how good a friends they were off the field as Clemens retired and then followed Andy to Houston and kept pitching. You would have to be a complete moron to believe that Andy was the only one that took HGH. That he and Roger never talked about it and Roger was totally in the dark about everything. Especially since Mcnamee was his DAMN trainer who, says he injected Clemens before he even came to the Yankees.
It's a shame but BYE BYE Hall of fame Rocket.
Last edited by dbreiden83080; 02-13-2008 at 10:34 PM.
man he's so screwed
Just measure the guys head it's huge yes he took roids just freaking admit it and stop looking stupid.
He'll be taking something else in the ass very soon at a prison near you....
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