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By what means is he given back to Dallas?
Waived? Wouldnt he have to pass all other teams?
Traded?
Despite the trade, Stack is expected to remain a Mav.
According to local Dallas Sports talk radio, Stackhouse was quoted as saying, "this gives me 30 days to recuperate. But I'm not going anywhere."
Either way, the Spurs need NOT go after him. There are far better options other than him.
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By what means is he given back to Dallas?
Waived? Wouldnt he have to pass all other teams?
Traded?
He becomes a free agent....has to wait 30 days to sign back with the Mavs or can sign with any team. Pretty sure he'll wait to rejoin the Mavs. Chance that he can be lured by a contender...ie Celtics
I will be curious to know what will be Stackhouse buyout.
If Nets Buyout is high and Stackhouse sign for the min with Dallas, it won't create troubles.
However, if Nets buyout is low and Stackhouse sign for the whole MLE with Mavs, it could create troubles to Mavs.
One can think that Mavs told to Stackhouse before the trade "accept a low buyout from Nets and we will offer you a big contract in 30 days."
To me, such a move is against CBA rules and could be sanction worthy.
I'd want him just so he couldn't play against us.
The Mavs losing Diop and Harris is great for us, but Stack is another Spur killer so I'm not quite as elated knowing that he will be back.
Quick question: if they have to wait for 30 days, doesn't Stack miss the deadline to be on the post-season roster, and isn't that why they put the rule in?
Seems like they are pretty confident he's coming back. Eh well.
I'd like to have Diop, but Stack? no.
Hmmm good point not sure....
If a team trades a player and the player is waived by the receiving team, the player's original team cannot re-sign that player for 30 days (during the season) or 20 days (during the offseason) following the date of the trade. http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#54
So the Mavs and Nets agree that the Nets will immediately waive him.
Smells bad.
Except i think every team with a worse record then the Mavs gets a chance to claim him off waivers 1st.
Playoff roster deadline is April. 17. I think the league did away with the deadline for being on a team's roster.
He is a free agent...teams cant force him to play for them...he chooses
no kidding, its delusional to think jerry brickhouse would ever sign with the Spurs. what a ing joke. plus, i don't like that anyway.
Damnitt.
this year. Seriously. There's no chance the entire Celtics organization will get shifted to the West this year is there?
I guess the only way to get him out of dallas if he don't want to would be for some team to pick him off the waivers during the week after the buyout become official.He is a free agent...teams cant force him to play for them...he chooses
But that means taking his original contract of 6.75 Mil and 3 years remaining, sounds unlikely.
feeling is mutual, i assure you.
Mavs forward George blocks trade of Kidd to Mavs
By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
(Archive)
Updated: February 13, 2008, 8:57 PM ET
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With the New Jersey Nets poised to complete a blockbuster deal to send Jason Kidd back to Dallas on Wednesday night, Mavericks reserve forward Devean George has unexpectedly exercised his right to block the trade, according to NBA front-office sources. Sources close to the situation told ESPN.com that the teams verbally agreed to the deal earlier Wednesday and were preparing to submit the trade for league approval when George informed the Mavericks that he wouldn't consent to being included in the deal, which is his right based on a rare provision in his one-year contract.
No Kidding Around
Jason Kidd, despite being a month away from turning 35, is still producing at a high level. Only two others, Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson, have met his averages (below) over the course of a season, and they did so in their early- and mid-20s.
Kidd by the numbers Career 2007-08
Points 14.3 11.3
Assists 9.2 10.4
Rebounds 6.7 8.1
FG Pct. 40.1 *36.6
*Career worst
The deal -- salvaged from talks on a three-way trade with Portland that developed and fizzled quickly two weeks ago -- has Dallas sending 24-year-old point guard Devin Harris, veteran swingman Jerry Stackhouse, the expiring contracts of center DeSagana Diop and George and guard Maurice Ager to New Jersey for Kidd and forward Malik Allen.
Sources say Dallas would also send the Nets the league-maximum $3 million, the Mavs' first-round draft pick this June and a first-rounder in 2010.
Kidd was with the Nets in Toronto, but didn't talk to the media before the game. He and Allen were both inactive, along with reserve Antoine Wright.
ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reports that the Nets and the Mavs were likewise poised to complete a separate trade that will send swingman Wright to Dallas for a future second-round pick.
Before Dallas' game against Portland on Wednesday night, Mavs coach Avery Johnson wasn't ready to call the trade complete.
"What trade?" he asked reporters, then added, "all it is is speculation."
Dallas had widely been considered the favorite to win the Kidd trade sweepstakes, despite the repeated attempts of Mavericks owner Mark Cuban to publicly dismiss the idea of parting with multiple regulars for Kidd. Cuban told several New York-based reporters before New Jersey beat Dallas on Sunday that a deal for All-Star floor leader would severely weaken his roster.
"For us to make the numbers work in a deal like that, we'd have to trade away half the team," Cuban said. "We're not doing that, so it just doesn't work. And we like our team. We've got a lot of room for improvement and we hope to get better. But right now, I just don't see anything happening.
Yet sources close to the process insist that the talks had heated up within the past 24 hours, with the Mavs still tantalized by the prospect of bringing Kidd back more than a decade after the pre-Cuban regime drafted him out of Cal, watched him share rookie of the year honors with Grant Hill in 1994-95 and then traded him to Phoenix on the day after Christmas in 1996.
Stackhouse's agent told him he was on the move.
"Now I think it's pretty much a done deal," Stackhouse told The Associated Press earlier Wednesday.
The Nets were expected to buy out Stackhouse's contract immediately, which would have enabled him to re-sign with Dallas if he waits 30 days.
"I feel great. I get 30 days to rest, then I'll be right back," Stackhouse said. "I ain't going nowhere."
That might be more true than he knew.
there is that. hmm....
Where scrubs killing blockbuster deals happens.
"this gives me 30 days to recuperate. But I'm not going anywhere."
Stern needs to take a good look at this. How is this any worse than the Minnesota Joe Smith under the table deal? Strip Dallas of a few 1st rounders!!!
never thought about that. boy i cant wait for tp to get back!
No he isn't. He might have had a good game or two against us in the past few seasons, but saying he is a Spurs killer is giving Stackhouse entirely too much credit. He is a marginal player.
Where scrubs killing blockbuster deals happens.
Now that is a great post !
I think it would be funny is Stackhouse did go somewhere else and bust the maverick bubble!
I think the rest of the league is conspiring to destroy the spurs...why couldn't we trade vaughn for marbury - elson for eddy curry. The rest of the west seems to get everything they want for less. What can we do??
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