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    And relating to the topic of this thread, no way. Thomas is a washed up old scrub at this point and he will be of little use. Last thing Pats need are any more old as linebackers.

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    Indy is set pretty good with Wayne and Gonzalez. Harrison's injury only made those two guys better receivers since they had to play all over the field instead of in position. I'd rather the Colts develop the WRs already on the roster than to waste money on a free agent. If they can get a consistent pass rush then their defense will be set for years and I don't see anything stopping them from winning more Super Bowls.

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    Cowboys | Z. Thomas to visit team
    Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:28:28 -0800

    The NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports free agent LB Zach Thomas (Dolphins) will visit with the Dallas Cowboys after the NFL Combine.


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    And relating to the topic of this thread, no way. Thomas is a washed up old scrub at this point and he will be of little use. Last thing Pats need are any more old as linebackers.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPhCxz-aWr4

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    Report: Patriots make offer to former Dolphins linebacker Thomas
    ESPN.com news services

    Updated: February 19, 2008, 10:20 AM ET



    Always looking to turn another team's castoffs into their stars, the New England Patriots offered newly released and longtime Dolphins linebacker Zach Thomas a contract Monday, according to a published report.

    Thomas made New England the first destination on his offseason tour of free agency stops.

    "We had a great visit in New England," Thomas' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, told The Miami Herald in a text message Monday evening. "They offered him a contract and we will continue negotiations."

    Next up for Thomas is a stop in New Orleans to visit with the Saints. On Wednesday, Thomas is expected to meet with the Cowboys.

    Thomas, 34, was released by the Dolphins on Feb. 14 after playing in only five games in 2007. He missed most of last season because of concussions and migraines and was placed on injured reserve against his wishes in December because of nagging migraines, an after-effect of an Oct. 21 car crash.

    Thomas' age doesn't appear to be an issue for the Patriots. Current New England linebacker Junior Seau is 39 while Tedy Bruschi is three months older than Thomas. Both Seau and Bruschi are free agents.

    Thomas, a seven-time Pro Bowl linebacker and one of the most popular and productive players ever to wear a Dolphins uniform, was the 154th player chosen in the 1996 draft out of Texas Tech.

    Thomas led the Dolphins in tackles 10 times during his 12-year stay in South Florida and is the franchise's all-time leader in that category by a wide margin. His 168 games is the most by any Miami defensive player.

    Thomas was remarkably durable in his first 11 seasons, missing only 13 games, and recorded a career-best 165 tackles in 2006 -- an indication he wasn't exactly slowing down.


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    How much could they have offered him? If I remember correctly, they had some key players to resign and didn't have much cap to work with.

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    How much could they have offered him? If I remember correctly, they had some key players to resign and didn't have much cap to work with.
    There's speculation that they offered the vet minimum + peformance bonuses.

    Stallworth is gone and so is Samuel. Depending on what they do with Moss, they have enough to make decent offers to some free agents.

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    There's speculation that they offered the vet minimum + peformance bonuses.

    Stallworth is gone and so is Samuel. Depending on what they do with Moss, they have enough to make decent offers to some free agents.
    They have to extend Moss, and after that, do they really expect everyone to restructure their contracts?

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    They have to extend Moss, and after that, do they really expect everyone to restructure their contracts?
    They've been doing it for years, what makes you think things will change? And there's no guarantee that Moss will demand top dollar either.

    If it makes you feel better to assume that every team has nothing but selfish crybabies who only look out for themselves (like the Chargers), go ahead. I was just offering what I knew.

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    And there's no guarantee that Moss will demand top dollar either.
    Keep your fingers crossed.

    If it makes you feel better to assume that every team has nothing but selfish crybabies who only look out for themselves (like the Chargers), go ahead. I was just offering what I knew.
    Please share your wealth of knowledge on the Chargers crybabies who only look out for themselves and their contracts.

    If this were actually the case, explain to me how AJ Smith swindled every key greedy Chargers players into signing extensions and not seeking top dollar elsewhere, all while staying under the cap, year after year after year.


    If you're gonna take a stab at my team, at least come with some substance and not some petty grudge.

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    They've been doing it for years, what makes you think things will change?
    See: Denver Broncos

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    Please share your wealth of knowledge on the Chargers crybabies who only look out for themselves and their contracts.
    Please share with me your insider information on the Patriots inability to have players restructure their contracts this offseason.

    Oh, wait, here it is...

    See: Denver Broncos
    Makes sense. Everyone knows that the Patriots modeled their franchise after the Denver Broncos.

    Sorry, but cir venting the cap isn't an issue with Scott Pioli.

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    All the restructuring finally caught up with the Broncos (and a few years of bad drafts.) You asked for an example, I gave you one. I didn't say it would happen to the Patriots but it is very possible. NFL players don't want to have to restructure their contracts year after year, as much as you'd like to believe every Patriot does.


    I'm still waiting for you to share with us your knowledge of all the greedy Charger players who are only out for themselves, or should I just forget you said that and have nothing to back it up and we move on?

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    If it makes you feel better to assume that every team has nothing but selfish crybabies who only look out for themselves (like the Chargers)
    Find anything yet dip ?

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    I'm still waiting for you to share with us your knowledge of all the greedy Charger players who are only out for themselves, or should I just forget you said that and have nothing to back it up and we move on?
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=1855828

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1858275
    record setting contracts = team first

    that's just your "team leader" and quarterback

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    There's speculation that they offered the vet minimum + peformance bonuses.

    Stallworth is gone and so is Samuel. Depending on what they do with Moss, they have enough to make decent offers to some free agents.
    NE defense going to suck next year with them old ass linebackers, Samuel leaving, and Hobbs getting burned at the stake and thrown in the Mystic River.

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    That doesn't backup your claim whatsoever.

    Are you saying you've never seen a top pick hold out and negotiate their contract? Is this your first year watching football?

    And what does Tomlinson being offered a huge contract after a record breaking season have to do with anything you stated? How does that make him "only out for himself"??? It was offered to him, not demanded by him.

    You make a blanket statement like this and can only come up with two miserably failing rebuttals? You still need to prove the Chargers players are only out for themselves, or at least admit that you now realize how stupid of a comment it was to begin with.

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    NE defense going to suck next year with them old ass linebackers, Samuel leaving, and Hobbs getting burned at the stake and thrown in the Mystic River.
    The secondary could look real ugly. Brandon Merriweather showed me something at the end of the year, so if he could replace Harrison, that could be a huge upgrade. But we're pretty much screwed at CB.

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    Thanks for the link mono, really goes to show how out for himself Tomlinson really is.


    Tomlinson said he's never considered playing out his current deal or leaving the Chargers, a team that hasn't had a winning record or made the playoffs since 1995.

    "In my opinion, that is what losers do," he said. "They bail out on a team. [They say] 'So this team is not winning, it's not going anywhere, I got to get out of here.'

    "I've never been that way, so why change now?"

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    it's easy to say that after you signed a record breaking deal. barry bonds could sound like a decent guy after signing a big contract.

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    it's easy to say that after you signed a record breaking deal. barry bonds could sound like a decent guy after signing a big contract.
    Is this pretty much you ?

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    That doesn't backup your claim whatsoever.
    yes it does

    Are you saying you've never seen a top pick hold out and negotiate their contract? Is this your first year watching football?
    yeah but he was about to go play for the San Diego in Chargers, the greatest organization in football. He was negotiating with that Lombardi Trophy collecting genius AJ Smith. He couldn't make an exception for them?

    And what does Tomlinson being offered a huge contract after a record breaking season have to do with anything you stated?
    Tom Brady won 3 Super Bowls and signed a contract that was pretty underwhelming in comparison to Peyton Manning's. LT doesn't win and gets rewarded with that?

    How does that make him "only out for himself"???
    because it does.

    It was offered to him, not demanded by him.
    yeah i'm sure LT would have played for peanuts if "offered" to him.

    You still need to prove the Chargers players are only out for themselves,
    I don't.

    or at least admit that you now realize how stupid of a comment it was to begin with.
    it wasn't.

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    Is this pretty much you ?
    no i'm less round and not yellow. don't own any flags.

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    If it makes you feel better to assume that every team has nothing but selfish crybabies who only look out for themselves (like the Chargers)
    The best RB in the league signs a contract offered to him and that somehow backs your claim of "the Chargers only look out for themselves." You are a ing genius.

  25. #50
    who the f wants to play for the patsies

    even if you win a super bowl with them it will always have an asterisk next to it

    Zach will be with the cowboys next year

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