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It's just way too soon to have a good idea on who should be Spurs FA targets.
Let's wait at least one week and the trade deadline to see if Spurs make or not a move.
And after the playoffs, Spurs needs will even be more known.
Azabuike>Moon
It's just way too soon to have a good idea on who should be Spurs FA targets.
Let's wait at least one week and the trade deadline to see if Spurs make or not a move.
And after the playoffs, Spurs needs will even be more known.
The Spurs will have 5 roster spots (they must carry 13, per CBA) to fill next year with the MLE, the LLE, vet mins, one $2+M trade exception (if they can find someone who both fits the salary and the team concept), and rookie contracts. Adjust your expectations accordingly. We won't be signing any "name" players, nor likely anyone to anything guaranteed beyond 2010 when everyone but Tim and Tony come off the books.
I'd like to see them give Kelenna Azubuike a chance.
It seems almost a guarantee they will try hard to get something done.
I'd love to see Devin Brown back here.
Jamison is 34 so getting him won't answer the Spurs' future needs. But he can definitely help especially with his 3 point shooting in unclogging the lane. He's also a decent post player and rebounder. Would be perfect at PF alongside Duncan.
However, since Splitter and Mahinmi are projected to join the team next year, Jamison would become redundant. Spurs could trade for the pieces they need.
Jamison is 34? I thought he came out a year or two after Tim. How can he be that old? He came out with Vince, right?
He'll be 32 in June.
Detroit Pistons
Restricted: Alex Acker, Walter Herrmann
Unrestricted: Primoz Brezec, Jarvis Hayes, Lindsey Hunter, Flip Murray
Limited Salary Protection: None
Well Detroit better win it all this year
Brezec Hayes Murray?
Addition by subtraction?
You are an idiot. Only some people have the balls to work there ass off an not quit once something doesn't go there way. Jamario Moon fought in and has made an impact. The guy is good and he produces.
Okay, I look at it as who needs replacing, then by whom:
Elson - Splitter
Horry - Mahinmi/Bonner (although Pop has soured on Bonner and he could be moved - if Bonner goes, replace him with either Hermann, Ryan Bowen or Bonzi Wells, although the latter would be risky)
Finley - Mo Evans on a small contract - good offensive player with mid-range game, could learn to defend in our system.
Barry - James Jones - throw a big part of the MLE at him. He can shoot, he's long, and he's young.
Vaughn/Stoudamire - Anthony Johnson, or keep Vaughn (he's not nearly as bad as casual fans think, especially when confined to the 10-15min backup role), draft youngster to learn.
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I'd rather throw a bunch of the MLE at Moon than Jones or Evans.
Moon is very multifaceted.
Agreed 1000% on Anthony Johnson.
Get Herrmann, he won't fail
Fine, but I doubt the Raps let Moon go, that's why I ignored him. I ignored Azubiuke for the same reason.
If not Jones or Moon, then Delfino. He's the homeless man's Manu...
I know he's not a free agent, but I'd love to get S. Jack back on the team
Don't get me wrong, i like Jones as well, I just think Moon could be had if you throw the MLE at him.
Delfino?
I'd have to think about that one.
Hey timvp, aren't you meant to be playing cards in Vegas???
I would think 80% of the American population "have the balls to work there ass off an not quit once something doesn't go there way."
Having a work ethic is nothing special in this country, esp. when the person is only in his 30s. He is a basketball player but that does not give him the right to slack off during working hours.
I do agree he produces nice highlight reels though
I don't know about the Raps cap, but I reckon they'd match Moon for the MLE. Also, Jones is much younger, and not as raw. Either way I wouldn't complain.
Oh, and BTW, Chip's name is Engelland, and he's a lovely guy. We chatted for almost an hour when I was in SA last time.
So your saying the guy doesn't work hard?I would think 80% of the American population "have the balls to work there ass off an not quit once something doesn't go there way."
Having a work ethic is nothing special in this country, esp. when the person is only in his 30s. He is a basketball player but that does not give him the right to slack off during working hours.
Your math is off. Vaughn has a team option for next season.
Guaranteed contracts
Mahinmi
Bonner
Duncan
Oberto
Manu
Bowen
Udoka
Vaughn
Parker
Almost guaranteed to bring in Rookies
Splitter
10 Players total. Need to fill 3 spots minimum, 5 spots maximum.
We have 3 picks, estimated at 27, 57, and 47( toronto pick)...
We need a 2nd/3ed pg. I would suggest either Cassel or Mighty mouse for the Vet Min. For 10 year+ vets in 08/09 that would be $1,262,275. The LLE or Biannual exception will be worth $1.91 million in 08/09. Using the LLE to secure Cassel would also be acceptable in my opinion
I would also try and bring Barry back for the Vet Min.
That would mean
Mahinmi, Bonner, Duncan, Oberto, Splitter
Manu, Bowen, Udoka, Barry
Vaughn, Parker, Cassel
I would want 1 more NBA experienced big (Diop for the MLE)
Hopefully, We would be able to draft at least 1 wing who would stick with 3 picks...
See, the situation is nowhere near as bad as you make out. Plus, if we get either Cassel or Stoudamire for the vet min, we will have the LLE to get a veteran wing. If not, we would have to go for the vet min. I think that might get us say Dahntay Jones (SAC) or Quinton Ross (LAC).
Last offseason, my two realistic targets were James Posey and Ime Udoka. I've watch Posey play a lot this year and he can beat a defensive beat. On the Spurs, he could have been really good. That said, I'm happy enough with Ime Udoka. He has shown some signs of being a long-term fit in San Antonio. We'll see how he plays down the stretch and into the playoffs before we know for sure whether he's going to stick.
I do agree with those who said the best option overall is to trade right now. This free agent class is pretty weak and it's also shallow. There just aren't that many quality options out there. Honestly, there aren't even many halfway decent options.
If the Spurs want an athletic wing to add to their collection of aging wings, I like Dorell Wring, JR Smith and Gerald Green ... in that order. Dorell Wright would be a perfect fit for what the Spurs need. He's tall, long and can rebound and even block shots. The Spurs liked him a lot when he was in the draft (he went straight from HS to NBA) but the Heat got him before the Spurs. His major knock is his jumper but he was regarded as a good shooter in high school so he likely could flourish in the right situation. Plus at 22, he's still young enough to improve.
JR Smith and Gerald Green are both similar because they are both head cases who could come for a cheap price due to their head case ways. If either had a clue about being a professional or working hard, they'd be stars. The Spurs may look at one of those guys as a low risk/high reward type signing.
As far as bigs, the two that jump out at me are Nenad Krstic and Eduardo Najera. Krstic is another player who the Spurs wanted that they missed out on. He has been horrible this year after tearing his ACL last year but he's still young and has already shown great promise. He's restricted and the Nets want to keep him so he'll be tough to snag away.
Eduardo Najera would be your typical Spurs signing. Aging veteran who brings toughness and hunger. If Horry retires, the Spurs will be low on power forwards as Splitter and Mahinmi are more center than power forwards right now. Najera for a reasonable contract would be a good veteran bigman presence that would allow the younger bigs time to grow.
As Bruno said, it's tough to really narrow it down until at least after the trade deadline. Things could change in a heartbeat at some point between now and the start of the signing period.
Hey TiMVP, we are going to need another PG next season. We have Vaughn and Parker. Do you say bring in another old vet (eg. Cassel), bring Stoudamire back, go rookie (ie. draft or Dleague, Darius?), or spend to get a prime age back-up guard (eg. Duhon)?
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