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So he's about on Wade's level? Nearly at James's level?bringing up the olympics to pimp manu
Manu is awesome, but agreed that he is no franchise player. If he's your best player, you'd be lucky to go 45-37.
bringing up the olympics to pimp manu
Manu is awesome, but agreed that he is no franchise player. If he's your best player, you'd be lucky to go 45-37.
So he's about on Wade's level? Nearly at James's level?bringing up the olympics to pimp manu
Manu is awesome, but agreed that he is no franchise player. If he's your best player, you'd be lucky to go 45-37.
Okay, I take that back, Manu as your best player shouldn't get you better than a .500 record at best.
Again, that places him at Wade's level.
Which seems reasonable to me. I'm not a Ginobili fan but, for off guards at least, the gap between Bryant and the rest of the pack is a sizable one, and he's as good as any of the other runners-up.
I think Wade is highly overrated. I think he's better than Manu, but not by that much. I'll always wonder how different the Finals would've been if Avery hadn't double-teamed Shaq constantly and focused his defense towards Wade instead.
Starting a team tomorrow, I take LeBron.
But if the 3 guys were tha same age today, Duncan...hands down.
Really, can you go wrong with any of the three? I dont think so. Theyre the 3 best players in the league, with Kobe and TD being exceptional defensive players as well.
Bron will pull that together sooner than later, IMO. Once he does, hes the best without question.
LeBron has already become a much better defender this year. He's saying in front of his man and making plays. I'd say he's already an above average defender.
Manu has no business in this conversation besides he beat a USA team without Kobe which is what i meant with that statement. Kobe locks him up like he did barbosa and the USA wins.
Tim played in the 2004 Olympics, I know spurs fans would like to forget that because it was a pathetic performance by Timmie. Lebron was also on that team.
Kobe instantly made the dream team better with his presence is all I wanted to say with that statement. He even makes the best, better! Kobe can do it anyway that is needed. If he has to score 81 points for his team to win, he does it. If he has to lock up on the opponents best scorer for his team to win, he does. There is not a more complete player in the league than Kobe Bryant!
How is Wade better than Manu? HE CAN'T ING SHOOT. Of the top 10 overall guards, he has the biggest hole in his game: he can't shoot the 3 ball. He's terrible from beyond the arc...Grant Hill terrible.
He's more effective than Manu because he gets like 13 FTAs per game. Defenders have to back off of him because of the respect he gets from the referees.
So referees make him a better player? I agree with whoever said that AJ should have had the Mavs back off him in 2006.
Manu has no holes in his game. Wade does. In addition to his ty shooting, he's a ing turnover machine.
Other than age, Manu > Wade.
That is the worst ing example ever. No one gives a about the All-Star game.
I've never met someone who more consistently uses ty arguments as you.
Okay Inchworm, I have some time on my hands. It was obvious that both teams were trying to win the game. Last season Kobe played and he was MVP, the game was not even close. Yesterday the West obviously missed his 4th quarter heroics to lose the game. It is, what it is! Why in your simple mind is that not a valid point?
You MUST be joking...
Let me ask you something... If people actually cared about the game, then why the wasn't Kobe out on the floor when the West "needed" him?
GTFO
What hole have you been in for the last week or two? He was hurt!!!! Damn, I should have known you were just talking out of your ass as usual. I should not have even responded!
then why did he play at all?
The league forced him to participate because he played the last game before he was diagnosed with a tear. League rules forbid players who were voted in to not participate if they are healthy enough to play the last game prior to the all star game. I'm sure if he would have had surgery he would have been excused but since he choses not to, he was forced to play.
Ugh! I can't believe I'm defending Dwyane Wade. Yes, he's shooting 46% from the floor this year, that's with being banged-up* and a ty-ass supporting cast that allows defenses to key in on him. The last two years when healthy he shot 49%, and that's a healthy mix of drives to the basket and jumpshots, so don't tell me he can't shoot. You can quibble with his shot selection and say he's not as pure a shooter as Manu, but when he's healthy, he scores pretty efficiently. I have a hard time faulting him for what he's doing this year, including the increased turnovers, when he's still not 100% healthy and he has to do everything for that team, and has to handle the ball more without a reliable PG. Get back to me when Manu is the best player on a team that wins a le.
* An argument can be made that Manu is more reliable and better than Wade because of durability concerns, and I'd certainly rather have Manu than Wade just for this year, but all things being equal, I don't think the Spurs are worse off over the long haul if the two were to switch places, nor do I think Miami is better. If we're talking pure ability, give me Wade over Manu by a hair.
If it was a game that mattered, he would have played in crunch time, hurt or not. It's what all the great players do.
So either it was a game that did not matter, or Kobe simply is not among the great players, because he refuses to play in a game that "matters".
Manu has legitimate championships and no shoulder injuries needing wheelchair assistance. Advantage Manu.
No doubt, I like Manu more, and I despise Wade, but there was nothing illegitimate about Miami's le. If we're going to admonish Suns fans that the suspensions didn't ultimately alter the outcome of their series, then I don't see how we can make the same argument because of how poorly Game 5 of the Finals was officiated in our case. Take G5 away and the Heat are still up 3-2.
I'm just trying to piss off that Heat fan troll.
OMG, I can't believe that Flo Rida posts on Spurstalk. We have a celebrity in the house.
haha
Wade, Lebron >>> Kobe.
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