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    put your money where your mouth is. $100 the statistics are credible.

    here you go race monger, I let you off the hook. The stats come from the US Census and the Department of Justice.

    http://whatblackmenthink.com/category/stat-101/
    Who said there are more black men in prison than college ? Who said most black women have AIDS ? 50% of black men don't graduate highschool ? That 1 in 3 are incarcerated ? They're claiming that's what 'people say'. That's what I'm talking about doofus. I don't know ANYONE who thinks most black women have AIDS or there are more black men in prison than college. I've never heard those statistics EVER. Never read it, never heard it spoken, till now, by the very people refuting it.

    Red Herring:

    a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:

    Topic A is under discussion.
    Topic B is introduced under the guise of being relevant to topic A (when topic B is actually not relevant to topic A).
    Topic A is abandoned.

    This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because merely changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim.

    Thanks for your participation. And how does any of this make me racist ?

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    Who said there are more black men in prison than college ? Who said most black women have AIDS ? 50% of black men don't graduate highschool ?

    then you are ignorant or nieve. most of the general population believes that nonsense, but a quick google search generated the following:

    http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-...jpistudy.shtml

    http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n1600/a03.html


    there's a ton more. That statistic is misleading at best. the point of the video is to talk about the positives rather than the constant negatives you see in the media. However, I'm sure you think it's balanced coverage.

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    Seriously, I can't get the page to work in either Firefox or Opera.

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    then you are ignorant or nieve. most of the general population believes that nonsense, but a quick google search generated the following:

    http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-...jpistudy.shtml

    http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n1600/a03.html


    there's a ton more. That statistic is misleading at best. the point of the video is to talk about the positives rather than the constant negatives you see in the media. However, I'm sure you think it's balanced coverage.
    MOST of the general population ? I doubt that. I give people more credit than that. Maybe I just don't hang around with enough dumbasses. Anyway, as far as the video is concerned I'm glad to see the problems in the black community are perception driven and not reality. Problem solved. Time to move on.

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    then you are ignorant or nieve. most of the general population believes that nonsense, but a quick google search generated the following:

    http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-...jpistudy.shtml

    http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n1600/a03.html


    there's a ton more. That statistic is misleading at best. the point of the video is to talk about the positives rather than the constant negatives you see in the media. However, I'm sure you think it's balanced coverage.
    Most of the general population? Are you serious? You know this how? You've polled the American people about what they think?

    Hasty generalization is a logical fallacy of faulty generalization by reaching an inductive generalization based on insufficient evidence. It commonly involves basing a broad conclusion upon the statistics of a survey of a small group that fails to sufficiently represent the whole population.

    Example:

    Person A travels through Town X for the first time. He sees 10 people, all of them children. Person A returns to his town and reports that there are no adult residents in Town X.

    Person A and Person B walk past a pawn shop. Person A remarks that a watch in a window display looks like the one his grandfather used to wear.

    Person B concludes that Person A's grandfather pawned his watch
    Person B concludes that Person A's grandfather had expensive tastes in jewelry
    Person B concludes that Person A's grandfather was ostentatious
    Person B concludes that Person A's grandfather can not tell the time any more


    You also should come up with better sources, I can google the same subject to come up with numbers that say the opposite. The point Word is making, (and if I'm incorrect please say so) is that he's never seen the stats presented in the video, hence they could be made up so that THEY can make their point. Something you almost conceded to when you said "the point of the video is to talk about the positives rather than the constant negatives you see in the media". I've never heard or read those stats either. I don't think that way about black people...my best friend is black and have plenty of black friends. Having said that; who really CARES what stats the media puts out? As long as you don't believe them then it. What I see here is another attempt to point the finger rather than take inventory of one's self.

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    then you are ignorant or nieve. most of the general population believes that nonsense, but a quick google search generated the following:

    http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-...jpistudy.shtml

    http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n1600/a03.html


    there's a ton more. That statistic is misleading at best. the point of the video is to talk about the positives rather than the constant negatives you see in the media. However, I'm sure you think it's balanced coverage.

    i've never heard any of that stuff till now either...not once.

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    "I see some black people looking at me: “Man, why you got to say that? It ain't us, it's the media. The media has distorted our image to make us look bad.” Please, cut the , okay? When I go to the money machine at night, I ain't looking over my back for the media. I'm looking for ######s!" - Chris Rock

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    "I see some black people looking at me: “Man, why you got to say that? It ain't us, it's the media. The media has distorted our image to make us look bad.” Please, cut the , okay? When I go to the money machine at night, I ain't looking over my back for the media. I'm looking for ######s!" - Chris Rock
    that's the point.

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    MOST of the general population ? I doubt that. I give people more credit than that. Maybe I just don't hang around with enough dumbasses. Anyway, as far as the video is concerned I'm glad to see the problems in the black community are perception driven and not reality. Problem solved. Time to move on.
    i guess dr. shelby steele, Juan Williams, and the other black college professors who collaborated on the project are dumbasses.

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    i guess dr. shelby steele, Juan Williams, and the other black college professors who collaborated on the project are dumbasses.
    No, just reverse racists.

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    All this talk has given me a hunkering for fried chicken and grape soda.

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    No, just reverse racists.
    amen

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    ???????? WTF? You just played yourself. This thread is over.

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    Even the clip was in broken english. I'll pass bro.

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    No, just reverse racists.
    Juan Williams is a reverse racists, now that's funny.

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    ???????? WTF? You just played yourself. This thread is over.
    bye.


    so i guess we can all agree we no longer need to hear how poorly the black man is doing because of the white man.

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    bye....lol......are you THAT stupid??

    the black man is doing poorly because of the black man.

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    and yeah i'll agree to that....cuz it's bull .

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    If Obama is elected President, can the black man still say that the "Man" is keeping him down?

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    Hmmmm, here's an idea - maybe the film itself is an investigation into the kinds of lies the clip describes! Maybe the film details the development and perpetration of such lies! Maybe writing it all off as bull before you've even seen the film exemplifies the kind of pig ignorance that the film is trying to address!


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    You obviously haven't read all of the thread because you don't even know what the ing argument is about. We are disputing the validity of the statistics that the video points out because we haven't seen or heard of them before. Maybe the film is just another way to point the finger at other people. You don't even ing live here...shut the up.

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    I can't see the damn video. It just keeps replaying the first question. Damn this movie.

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    I can't see the damn video. It just keeps replaying the first question. Damn this movie.
    That's the same problem I'm having.

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    Here's the video guys:


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    You obviously haven't read all of the thread because you don't even know what the ing argument is about. We are disputing the validity of the statistics that the video points out because we haven't seen or heard of them before. Maybe the film is just another way to point the finger at other people. You don't even ing live here...shut the up.
    Oh, I've read the thread. You obviously can't read.

    I know you are disputing the validity of the stats - lemme guess, we'll find out where those stats are being quoted from in the movie. Dumbass.

    As for not living there, that means I have no right to an opinion? I thought the US was the bastion of free speech. you pal.

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