Lol, now with thespazzing and the personal insults. Such a tough guy hiding behind a computer insulting people he'll never come into physical contact with lol...
So, you don't care if he beats women if he's a basketball player, but it's not ok if he's mayor, got ya...
yeah pretty much.So, you don't care if he beats women if he's a basketball player, but it's not ok if he's mayor, got ya...
tell me, do you go on righteous crusades like this against every wifebeater alive? I'd love to hear you about why Frank the plumber who lives in Fayetteville Arkansas shouldn't be a plumber because he beats his wife.
Or do you only care enough to post on a forum if it's a famous basketball player who beats their wife? Oh, that IS it, got ya...
If we follow Joumana's argument to its logical conclusion, then Jason Kidd should never again be allowed to practice his vocation because of what he did that night. I don't remember the disposition of his case, but it worked its way through the courts and he got whatever the system had coming to him. He paid his debt to society.
By a lot of accounts, he's not exactly a stand-up guy off the court, but I don't really care. He's not a schoolteacher or anything of similar importance...
He got probation, paid a fine and went to domestic violence counseling.
Yep, he might be a wife-beater but he's a good basketball player, so he should be allowed to keep playing basketball because hey, it's not about character, ability is all that matters. Pete Rose shouldn't have been banned from baseball for gambling on games, teams should be lining up for Barry Bonds even though he probably used steroids, Pacman Jones shouldn't have been suspended by the NFL for being involved in a bar fight and shooting that led to a guy getting paralyzed, Todd Bertuzzi shouldn't have been suspended by the NHL for breaking another player's neck, etc. Who cares if these guys have some uh, character issues? As long as they can play, they should play and be allowed to continue making their millions, got ya...
Doubt you'd be so much in Kidd's corner if SA or HOU or LAL or whoever got him and not us...
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WOW....just wow....Yep, he might be a wife-beater but he's a good basketball player, so he should be allowed to keep playing basketball because hey, it's not about character, ability is all that matters. Pete Rose shouldn't have been banned from baseball for gambling on games, teams should be lining up for Barry Bonds even though he probably used steroids, Pacman Jones shouldn't have been suspended by the NFL for being involved in a bar fight and shooting that led to a guy getting paralyzed, Todd Bertuzzi shouldn't have been suspended by the NHL for breaking another player's neck, etc. Who cares if these guys have some uh, character issues? As long as they can play, they should play and be allowed to continue making their millions, got ya...
Let them play all they want. If they face criminal charges, then they should be punished by the US justice system.
And last I checked, betting on games, using steroids, and assaulting players on the ice all directly affect their jobs. Which means they aren't qualified to play.
Beat women and you should be punished by the courts, but it doesn't disqualify you from being a basketball player.
Talk about not seeing the big picture...
You doubt wrong stupid ass.
judging by just how insanely lame and weak his posts are, his Jason Kidd hate, and his obsessive life for the
What a failed attempt. Better luck next time.
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If someone commits a crime, he or she often loses his job and goes to jail, so his/her employer has basically decided Frank the Plumber should no longer be a plumber while the police and the judge and jury have decided Frank the Plumber should no longer be allowed to be a plumber for the next few years. Seems like I don't have to because the job is being done, not by me, but by those who represent my and society's interests, namely the police, judge, and jury. They took away the criminal's ability to continue doing his job and make money and have condemned him to wear the "criminal" label in the form of a permanent record, but in this case Kidd is still playing ball and making millions and his new team's fans just shrug their shoulders.
If I bonk you on the head with a pipe and leave you with a dent in your head for the rest of your life, I'm pretty sure you'd want to kill me but since that's not legal you'd at least want me to lose my job and any chance I have of making any money in order for me to continue to have a good life, and I'd totally understand that. But hey, since a total stranger was the victim here and the assailant was someone who plays for your oh-so-special team, he gets a free pass and should in fact be welcomed as a hero come to save your precious team. Got ya
Bottom line is I think character is important along with ability. You think ability is the only thing that matters. I think good basketball players who are also wife-beaters are not good people. You could care less that that basketball player beat his wife up in front of their 2-year old kid, as long as that player helps your team. Who cares if that player was a child molester instead or a rapist? If he's a good player, then he's ok with you. If that's the case, then that's that and it's pointless to keep arguing.
It's funny how SA has nothing but class players and keeps winning championship after championship, while DAL keeps dumping classy player after classy player like Finley and Nash and keeps choking and choking. I guess it's not surprising then that DAL goes out and adds a felon. If having barely any class doesn't work, then maybe losing whatever class you have left will...
alot of words for a failed Sun Fan troll. get a clue about life and get back to me.blah blah blah blah blah pointless bull about how important it is for basketball players to be upstanding citizens because they hold such importance to the development of our world blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
Not sure whether NJ got the better end, but Dallas sure got a lot worse.
Devin Harris was the chief reason the Mavs were so tough for the Spurs, esp in the 2006 West Finals. And Diop is their only credible defender against Duncan.
Kidd used to be an elite PG, but that ain't the Kidd the Mavs are getting. The Kidd the Mavs are getting is offensively WEAKER and less efficient than Harris, and old and slow.
Similar to the Suns signing an old, slow Shaq, this move reeks of desperation.
Yeah, like that's ever going to happen. When was the last time you saw a basketball player prosecuted for domestic violence charges? The NBA will do all it can to prevent that from ever happening.
Um, most people out there who commit domestic violence don't lose their jobs, because most are held for 1-2 nights and then releases, and in most cases the charges are dropped. This is because the cycle of violence includes a "honeymoon" stage, which couples often revert back to after an incident, and during this phase women will often drop the charges and hope it won't happen again (which it usually does). Eventually she leaves, or she winds up dead.
And Jason Kidd was never charged with a felony, I believe charges were dropped or reduced after he completed counseling.
well that's a problem with the justice system, right?
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Hmmm...
da_suns_fan?
dannyB?
Also... notice the complete absurdness of the posts, yet the rather good grammatical usage, spelling, and punctuation. Seems rather fitting for one of those two...
Both sides got a good deal. The Mavs lost matchup advantage against us, but is better overall if they can find a decent backup C (doubtful). Kidd even in his advanced, arthritic age >>> Harris. He's not a pussy for one and actually has something called court vision and passing skills. Anyone who says Devin Flopper Harris is better than Kidd is delusional. But you can make a case for whether or not the Mavs get better for what they gave up.
I think maybe in the short term, Dallas came out ahead. But I think looking to coming seasons, New Jersey was the winner.
I think what hurt the Mavs was the defense they lost against the Spurs. But we still have to play them a couple of times before playoffs, so I guess we will see. I know Kidd can't stay in front of Tony. And he isn't shooting at a high percent, so I suppose the Mavs think court vision and passing will make up for the things he has lost. I guess we will all find out soon.
Jason Kidd in his prime was better than Harris will ever be. But this is the 35-year-old Kidd, and he's now slow and offensively less effective and efficient as Harris. The numbers don't lie. And Harris is pretty decent defensively, though not as big and strong as Kidd. But he makes up for his size with his speed.
I don't see how the Mavs really NEEDED Kidd - except that the have this psychological chokehold on their team since collapsing the last 2 years in the playoffs. That's all Kidd gives them. But they gave up perimeter defense (Hassell), interior defense (Diop) and a PG who is 10 years younger. Is that worth it, for the psychological boost Kidd may bring them? Maybe. But I think it's pretty reasonable to question whether what they gave up is going to come back to bite them in a 7 game series in the playoffs.
They needed Kidd because the experiment of Dirk being a leader and carrying them to a championship failed miserably. So you make some changes, hope for the best and move on. If they go ahead and win a championship now, would any of these opinions matter?
numbers likes nearly averaging a triple-double? numbers like that?
The fact that you even put Hassell into the discussion shows you don't know what you are talking about. Hassell almost never even played (i personally didn't understand why, but he didnt, and wasnt going to be used much.)
Hassell? Whatever, once you strip away the scrubs on both sides, they gave up Harris and a decent interior defender who plays 15 minutes a game. They are definitely trading tomorrow in exchange for today, but assuming we get a Dale Davis, a PJ Brown or a Johan Petro, then we are way ing better. Harris gives Tony Parker fits, but that was just something Dallas is going to have to deal with to get better. I'm on this ing bandwagon now.
It's about time, lol. The very first time I heard this trade, I didn't like it at all, as I think more and more about it, the better it gets to me. I think Kidd is going to have a massive impact. I can't wait till tonight!
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