There's no time like now, and it's a good move.
Well done FO.
Now if only they could learn to scout US draft talent...
It does seem like somebody around here is connected, because it's starting to look like everytime a name is mentioned around here, with enough support, it seems to get done.
I think you're mistaking cause and effect. I doubt ST causes anything, but people around here know their stuff and can predict the likely outcomes/effects given their knowledge of the Spurs and NBA. ST is a board with above-average NBA-IQ.
Kudos to the FO.
I've been very critical of them resting on the draft laurels of Parker and Ginobili. But I have to give them credit for pulling off this trade.
After the Spurs win the le, impress us all some more by going out and getting that long-awaited, swingman that we've desparately needed for so long. And bring in Desgana Diop for good measure.
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the great thing about this trade is that it caused minimal impact in terms of team chemistry but at the same time has a huge potential of working out on the court. add to that, long term plans by the FO are still intact. if thomas doesn't work out as hoped, splitter and mahinmi are still coming next season. and if thomas does work out, one of the two mentioned can be traded to fill a need. all the while, the spurs will still be left with alot to be able to sign a big name free agent in the future.
Well that did cross my mind. With a few exceptions... I won't name names.I think you're mistaking cause and effect. I doubt ST causes anything, but people around here know their stuff and can predict the likely outcomes/effects given their knowledge of the Spurs and NBA. ST is a board with above-average NBA-IQ.
i hate giving away 1st rounders we can stockpile in europe. after splitter we are done with euro talent in a way.
its cool trade, props to spurs, I wish we got artest but kings wanted too much.
poor artest.
gr8 deal for us! i do think Thomas may be able to help in series aganst: Flakers, Horners, Rocketeers, Mavs and Denver
I'm not sure. Many guys on ST said We need more size we need a start big.
Well Thomas has more size than Elson? no.
yeah Elson's departure isn't a brain drain but Kurt's an other old veteran. Other big who can't run and block.
Anyway, I should prefer trade Elson and Bonner for Kurt and not to lose Brent. It doesn't seem a good move.
There's nothing stopping the Spurs from looking at Artest again this summer.
The Gasol trade put the Lakers ahead of the spurs as the favorite to come out of the west.
The Thomas trade does not improve the spurs as much as the Gasol trade improved the lakers.
The most important thing - I believe other teams in the west are now trying to fix the new puzzle created by this KT trade by the Spurs. I'm sure this has disrupted a lot of plans they have made. It's interesting how the Spurs wait until the last possible moment to make the trade. Even if the other teams had a good idea this was a probably trade for the spurs or heard about it, even so, they don't know until it happens so they have to keep their options open to counter it.
A few games against the Utah's of this conference and they are going to be sending a kid out to the court to mop up Kobe's pinky.
Where does that leave the Lakers?
The Spurs just made it likely that they will have a big next to TD who can shoot the rock the entire time TD is on the court. Not to mention someone who can board and make his defensive rotations.
Good move by the Spurs. I don't think it's as much about taking SA up a notch as it is about fixing the gaping hole that was Elson. Thomas is a smarter and more capable all-around player, and better post defender, than Elson. Thomas is a banger, and that's exactly the kind of complement Tim needs in the paint. Elson was... well, mostly glued to the pine. Come playoff time, I'll feel much better about trotting out a Duncan/Thomas front line than a Duncan/Elson front line.
I'll miss Barry though. In a way, I think the emergence of Udoka made Barry more expendable. Thanks for the great shots, Barry.
Shocking insight.
Thanks.
Of course, Thomas is not Gasol.
But if this is a chess match, the Lakers were playing from behind and the Spurs just answered.
Checkmate.
P.S.
I am not sure that the front office is quite done yet. The swingman spot is still a little thin and I see depth now at the PF and PG spots in particular.
Who thinks the front office has one more trick up their sleeve?
Question.
Good trade and we needed to beef up in the front court due to the recent trades made in the WC. I hated to see Brent go but with his injury taking him out of the rotation it seemed like a sensible thing to do. Damn I hated it when he got injured - he was doing really good for us at the time.
Well Pop honored his request - "get me out of here (Seattle) and Brent contributed to two championship runs so all in all it was a very good signing. I wish him the best.
Your over rating the contribution of Thomas. Thomas is better than Elson but he is not a big difference maker. There is no checkmate. Gasol put the Lakers in the drivers seat to win the west. He will not be an easy cover for Thomas because he is too quick.
When Thomas is on the bench with 3 quick fouls in the first quarter in many of the playoff games with the Lakers you will be thinking differently. You really think Thomas will get away with any type of contact whatsoever on Gasol or Bynum? I can see Thomas making faces now that there should not have been a foul called on him and this place ing about the Lakers getting all the calls.
Thomas was about as good as the spurs would be willing to get and good for those here who are thrilled about it but it will be short lived as he will not be a difference maker like Gasol will be in the end.
I'm pretty happy the Spurs went out and shored up a pretty significant weakness on their team. I like adding a rebounder like Kurt for that matchup with LA's frontline, and he should get plenty of open shots when Shaq or Amare is too lazy to come out on him against the Sons.
Sure, but wouldn't you say we were a tad better than the Lakers to begin with?
They add Gasol and we answer with Thomas.
It won't be easy.
Boy you aint kidding. For anyone that doesn't believe it, log into the Mavs basketball forum sometime.I think you're mistaking cause and effect. I doubt ST causes anything, but people around here know their stuff and can predict the likely outcomes/effects given their knowledge of the Spurs and NBA. ST is a board with above-average NBA-IQ.
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I'm glad that the Spurs made a trade that satisfied those who wanted a deal to shake things up and those who wanted a deal to address a need. Days of spirited debate conclude (apparently) in a deal that seems to make everyone happy -- well maybe everyone other than whottt.
Whether this trade puts the Spurs over the top or not remains to be seen, obviously. The need for rebounding help has seemed apparent to me for quite some time and it's hard to find a better source of that help at the price the Spurs were willing to pay than Kurt Thomas. Thomas seems to be a good fit from a character and professionalism standpoint and I'm sure he'll be made to feel at home from day one. I just hope he's more Nazr Mohammed and less Charles Smith.
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