Manny...they weren't radical pro-lifers but they were both raised catholic...so that potentially raises guilt/angst issues.
And it's a little late to place blame and or second guess...whats done is done.
Well if you're raised catholic you can say < fill in the blank > raises guilt issues so I can understand. I just really hate to see people who are strongly pro life until they need an abortion. Its horrible to try to deny people something you use when you need it was my only point.
I hope everything works out for them with whatever they choose.
Now isn't that the Religeous/American way?
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I can't ing wait for this .
placing the baby up for adoption not an option?
Sell it on the black market IMO.
I pray every day that this is something I'll never have to face ... because it's no longer beyond the realm of possibility. I hope I've been doing a good enough job.
You can tell who the parents are on this thread, that's for sure...I pray every day that this is something I'll never have to face ... because it's no longer beyond the realm of possibility. I hope I've been doing a good enough job.
All the boys in that school would know the she's "good for it"
Everything is an option. I'm just saying that this is an emotionally fragile CHILD that could be entering a predominantly white middle class high school next fall 7 months pregnant. I may be old, but I can still remember how vicious high school kids can be.
american society already follows hollywood a little too much. that's why we're in this "me me me" state that we're in.
They can pull her out for a year and home school till after birth. Its an option and that shouldn't sway their descision.
I hope i never have to be in this position, I too hope i'm doing a good enough job with my kids. I hate to think my little girls would be doing this at this age. Even with my son, way too early to be having to deal with this.
wait for what? an opinion. i'm a man, remember. you just yell at women for having opinions.
I completely support the right to take advantage of the emotionally fragile, that's why God invented them. But you got to nip this sort of behavior in the bud.
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If she's not emotionally ready to go through pregnancy, I can't imagine she'd be ready for the kind of guilt she's going to have to carry from terminating the pregnancy either.
I won't pretend to be an expert on the subject but I am very close to someone who had a baby at 17 and gave him up for adoption, and she's very happy with her decision. She still receives photos and a letter from the adoptive parents twice a year.
Best of luck to them, this is a tough situation and it's certainly not something that only happens to "bad parents."
So have her parents bus her to one of those non-white schools with a bunch of preggo teenagers.
hopefully you're not insinuating that the people with no kids are saying stuff they wouldn't be saying if they were a parent. maybe "we" are, but a lot of "parents" i see just bend over to there kids. i've seen teenagers cuss at their parents. tell them to f' off and all sorts of stuff, and they still get everything handed to them. if my parents were their parents, they'd have a permanent hand indention on their ass and face, and that's just the tip of that messy iceberg. i don't envy your job, but i sure aint going to go that route when it comes up.
I don't yell at women for having opinions I yell at stupid people for having stupid pointless opinions. Thats usually you male or female no matter I'm the enemy of idiocy from all genders.
Last edited by BacktoBasics; 02-25-2008 at 02:55 PM.
i can't imagine all that inner fighting.
I love that scene. Major props to the poor kid for not laughing during it.
On a more serious note:
She's too young. I fully agree with you when you call her a kid. I'm not sure which solution will/would leave less of an emotional scar.
The family fighting over her choice is ed up enough - I hope they can set it aside and help her make the best possible decision.
If the girl is already emotionally fragile, I hope they consider what having an abortion could do to her already fragile state. While the effects may not be as outward as having to deal with the looks and comments at being pregnant, they will still be there. I also hope that the parents will not be predominantly motivated by outward appearance and the fact that a pregnancy can't be hidden but an abortion can. I also hope they will consider adoption, as there are people desperate to have children who simply can not. While no parent wants to be in this situation, teaching the child to handle the consequences- which may include people's comments and judgments- is part of life.
It's her decision.
What's sounds horrible about the situation is her sister and parents making ultimatums. What they should be doing is presenting the alternatives and their consequences, then let her make her decision, and finally love and support her even if (and especially if) they don't support her decision. Personally, I am pro-choice, but this situation sounds like a win-win with her sister willing to step in and help.
As for school, she should go to the strictest school they can manage. She's shown that she can't responsibly handle the freedom she was given.
I'm a pro-choice Catholic. I certainly understand the parent's point of view, I would probably feel the same way they do if I was in their shoes.
I know the discussions my daughter and I have had on the subject lead me to believe that as a teenager she has no concept of what is truly involved. She is pro-choice but thinks she could never have an abortion herself. At that age, you just can't make them see how difficult life will be. You always hope for the best for your child, but it's really hard when you go from hoping that "best" is a college degree and a great happy life to hoping they just finish high school.
My heart goes out to these parents and I pray I am never in their situation.
Manny,
Have you ever tried to stop a teenager from having sex?
The sad thing is i work in an emergency room..and theres kids/mothers all the time that are 15-16 pregnant and bringing in there 1-2 yr olds in to get checked out...there still on the pediatric side themselves technically...or even labor and delivery will fax us paper work on moms that are 15 giving birth...it happens so much these days..and when they get to the Er they are clueless the real parent/grandmother now has to answer the nurses questions and be the mom
its sad
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