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So they almost lost the series to Kurt Thomas, but he had nothing to do with it....Whatever....that series was the one we almost lost so D'antoni wasn't doing too badly.
So has Kurt Thomas's picture overtaken Finley's on your dartboard?
Played 3 quarters and won by 15.
Your starting shooting guard shot horrible, your starting center was mediocre at times.
of a good day.
So they almost lost the series to Kurt Thomas, but he had nothing to do with it....Whatever....that series was the one we almost lost so D'antoni wasn't doing too badly.
So has Kurt Thomas's picture overtaken Finley's on your dartboard?
Thanks for the thoughts, Timvp.
I couldn't believe the first quarter play. Against a better team, that would have been suicide. Luckily, our defense kept us in the game and then we just found a rythym to finish out the game.
Do you think Manu had the POTW curse? Last time Tony got POTW, he had a terrible game the next time out. Guess you could say the same for Manu tonight.
Luckily, Timmy was solid and made sure that we won this game tonight.
Glad to see Thomas playing some solid minutes. He is a tremendous defensive asset. I will look forward to seeing him on the court at the same time as Timmy much more often.
And Tony looked a lot better tonight. Hopefully, he will be ready to turn on the jets against Kidd on Thursday night.
Make up your mind, Sybil.
All this Kurt Thomas jocking reminds me of when you people busted a nut over James White
Who spent a year and a half sucking for the Spurs that James white came in and outplayed in his first game?
1 game against the Hawks. My 80 year old grandma would have looked better than the 1st quarter team by comparison. I'm not pointing out Thomas deficiencies but people's ability to jump from one jock to another. Which is how disease spreads BTW
Couple thoughts,
Once the rotation sets I don't know if Pop will go to many Thomas - Duncan front lines because he probably would prefer to run Horry out there to really open space for Duncan as well as Parker/Ginobili. Of course the production of Horry is going to be critical to just how much time he gets. I know Thomas can hit 15 - 18 ft jumpers, but Horry just gives so much more space by drawing the defender out to the 3 line anywhere on the court.
Thomas looks like he should be a great fit, everything that he brings and his personality just have "fit" written all over them in regards to the Spurs. He might fit the Spurs just as much as he didn't fit the Suns. One thing I had forgotten about him from the last playoffs is just how intelligent he plays on the block. Even little, simple things like knowing when to foul on the block and being very good at making sure the opponent has to go to the stripe for 2 and not +1.
Steve Nash's bad luck, Robert Horry's shoulder, and Amare and Diaw's stupidity is why they they lost that series...it had nothing to do with Kurt Thomas. Steve Nash was the main reason...he was on a mission last playoff. Best basketball he ever played IMO.
Nah...I actually don't think Thomas is a choker like Finley, he doesn't have Mav stink on him like Finley, I don't think he cost his teams championships like Finley probably did...plus Thomas has never whined like a litltle ing like Finley did...So has Kurt Thomas's picture overtaken Finley's on your dartboard?
And finally..if Thomas is on the opposing team, I don't actively root for him to get the last second shot under pressure like I did with Finley either...
Elson's career as a Spur vs. the Hawks in the first two lines. Thomas' night on the third. Other than the drop in shooting percentage, what's not to like again?
MP FG FGA FG% RB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
12 1 1 1.000 2 0 0 1 1 5 2
12 1 2 .500 1 0 1 0 2 3 2
13 2 5 .400 9 0 1 2 0 3 4
I hope to see Kurt Thomas matched up against other difficult bigs. He seemed to fit in pretty fast. I hope it continues.
Holy , I knew Thomas was having a great game while I was watching, but I didn't know he had 9 boards in only 13 minute. This guy's the freaking Anti-Nesterovic! Or maybe Nazr Mohammed + bball IQ + hands.
This is probably Kurt Thomas's best team to fit with since the last time the Knicks were good, about a decade ago. He has to feel very fortunate. In addition to what's been said, I really like how hard he'll foul a guy. If he fouls you, you know it.
Stoudamire, I've been surprisingly happy with. He's a good fit, and isn't trying to do too much. Thomas and Stoudamire look like their learning curves are going to be much shorter than most players new to the system.
I agree with everything said about KT. I felt good about this trade the moment it was even suggested. This guy has played Spurs basketball for his entire career. He'll be steady and productive playing with Duncan, or coming off the bench. That's his game...not flashy, or huge numbers, but consistently steady.
Hopefully, Pop won't feel the need to play "small ball" so much now trying to match up with other teams. But, instead, play Spurs ball and make "other" teams try to match up with us for a change. This is potentiallly a better trade than the LA one because the fit is so damned good.
Anyway, I thought Tony's presence took something away from Manu tonight...he never really got into an offensive rythm. Manu will adjust again to the new lineup, but I think it will take a few games for both he and Tony to sync up again (and yeah, that fast break was nice)
Also agree with everyone about Stoudamaire. I feel comfortable with him out there, even tho his shot and offense aren't making any headlines. He just looks calm and confident. Would like to see a little more agressiveness on the offensive end at some point tho.
Another great analysis Tim. Always look forward to them.
On another note...
Can Barry say he has decided to go with the Spurs on Tuesday? Is it too early for that kind of statement from a team that cut him a week ago? Such an early statement from Barry concerns me that he may not come back.
Last edited by SouthernFried; 02-26-2008 at 04:52 AM.
Consider me one of those not sold on Stoudamire...I think he's playing fine enough but I've seen that dude choke a lot.
People can bash Vaughn, but when teams dare him to beat them....he hits his shot, and he does it with regularity. Little stuff like that is invaluable in winning a le IMO, and I'm not certain Stoudamire will do that....
He's definitely more talented than Vaughn, but sometimes it's about more than talent and for some reason I trust Vaughn more to come through in that sort of situation...I guess it's because of last season.
Must we bicker about nothing kids?
Anyhoo, about Manu: I think it's time to move him back to the bench. He looked tired tonight, and it's time for him to rest up. Parker looks to be regaining his game shape to the point that you can move Finley back to the starting lineup and get Manu's minutes back around the 30 mark. If you need him, you play him more, but otherwise, sit him.
KT looked like a perfect fit - a better back-up for Duncan, and against big lineups the perfect foil. Great acquisition.
I am also ready to concede, happily, that back on January 30 I was wrong about Horry being done. From that time, after almost 20 games in which he looked a step slow to be playing, he has gradually improved. His last 7 or 8 games he has looked more like an NBA player. I still don't think that he can be relied upon like he used to be, but I'd be surprised if he isn't the hero in one more playoff game... oh, and he and KT looked like a good combination to me.
As for Stoudamire vs Vaughn, I'm not convinced either way. I think Pop should use them as offensive/defensive back-up PG depending on the dictates of the situation, and see who comes out on top in the next 15 games. Vaughn can't shoot, but when he plays 10-15min of frenetic D combined with efficient distribution he can be a sparkplug for the team. Either way, having two capable backup PGs with different strengths is a nice luxury and allows Pop to keep TP's minutes down.
SPAM, here we come.
Last edited by RuffnReadyOzStyle; 02-26-2008 at 06:00 AM.
Maybe Kurt'll better help with Tim out the court. When Tim takes rest, we have a great problem because we lost physical presence in the paint. Kurt could help so much in those minutes.
As RuffnReadyOzStyle said Kurt's is a better back up for Tim and this is one reason for he should come off the bench
in only 13' Kurt finished with 3th fouls. Also Oberto's foul prone and I don't see Horry over Shaq.
Now that you wrote this he will probably go back to play for San Antonio. I'm sure they all read SpursTalk.
Thomas is a better rebounder in his sleep than Oberto or Horry are when they are awake. 9 rebounds in limited action? That explains why he led the NCAA in rebounding during his college days.
Spurs cannot afford to play the way they did in the 1st qtr. If they did that against any Western Conference contender it'd be game over. Good thing you played against one of the worst teams in the East. You know what's amazing? The Hawks still have a chance to make the playoffs.
KURT THOMAS!
I don't know. Just doesn't have the same feel.
+/- for Jacque are usually +, while Damon is usually -. Does Damon really add more than Jacque?
Thomas should have no problem playing with Duncan in key matchups. They should be able to play significant minutes together.
Lakers - Bynum, Gasol
Rockets - Yao, Scola
Jazz - Boozer, Okur
Detroit - Wallace, McDyess
Celtics - Garnett, Perkins
He was in a reserve role that entire season. He ac ulated 6 DNP-CDs.
The Clippers were swept by the Jazz.
As for the comparison of Barry and Thomas:
Kurt has played on some good teams, however his teammates were not to the caliber of Duncan/Ginobili/Parker.
Bad example IMO.
Kurt Thomas = Threes syllables
James White = two
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