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    Yes, they're being pissy about it, but let's not pretend there aren't a good supply of threads and posts about this same topic any time the Spurs lose (even after last night's win). Cuban just hates Crawford.
    No one is pretending that. I think we all know it happens just as much when the Spurs lose. The difference is that you don't usually hear anyone from the Spurs organization complaining, just the fans.

    Didn't know that about Cuban, has he had issues with Crawford before?

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    Differnece is you don't have the Spurs' owner, coach and players whining to the press and constantly sending tapes to the leauge office. Pick any game where Terry was guarding Parker and all the cheap shot elbows he threww to the ribs. Parker hasn't gotten Po'd at that little prick many times for his dirty play. Just not stupid enough to get a T. Good to see the Mavs still are dumbasses and will never be mentally tough.
    No, you don't hear them whining as much as you hear Cuban, but that's because he's made himself that visible. But I can tell you the number of tapes sent in by every team is about the same. You just don't hear about it because other owners aren't on the red carpet or blogging or doing national TV shows like he does.

    And yes - he hates Crawford and Salvatore with a passion. "Dead horse head in their beds" passion.

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    Maybe he could forward the tape of Dirk tripping over his own giant feet and the refs whistling Udoka for the "foul."

    Piss off, Cuban.
    Or when Dampier bumped Dirk and nobody gave Dirk freethrows.

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    But I can tell you the number of tapes sent in by every team is about the same. You just don't hear about it because other owners aren't on the red carpet or blogging or doing national TV shows like he does.
    So how many does each team send out in a season? Average? Ball park figure?

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    Nothing new...just a cheapshot from Bowen that worked exactly like he hoped...
    Did you even watch the game? There was no elbow on the play.

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    No, you don't hear them whining as much as you hear Cuban, but that's because he's made himself that visible. But I can tell you the number of tapes sent in by every team is about the same. You just don't hear about it because other owners aren't on the red carpet or blogging or doing national TV shows like he does.

    And yes - he hates Crawford and Salvatore with a passion. "Dead horse head in their beds" passion.
    I'm sure you have a link for this little factoid? And the fact that the other owners aren't on the red carpet or blogging or doing national TV shows, what does that tell you about your owner? Bet if he kept his little girl mouth shut more often, karma wouldn't be such a . Notice the difference when the Spurs lose, you don't see Pop, Holt or any of the players making excuses and whining to media.

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    No, you don't hear them whining as much as you hear Cuban, but that's because he's made himself that visible. But I can tell you the number of tapes sent in by every team is about the same. You just don't hear about it because other owners aren't on the red carpet or blogging or doing national TV shows like he does.

    And yes - he hates Crawford and Salvatore with a passion. "Dead horse head in their beds" passion.
    It's about the same? And you know this how?

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    Did you even watch the game? There was no elbow on the play.
    It's true - TV cameras don't miss a thing.

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    It's true - TV cameras don't miss a thing.

    Why do you care? You're a Bulls fan now.

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    i get so sick of all the ing and moaning about fouls... from all Spur/Mav fans. the Mavs got outplayed, AJ got outcoached, and I'm gettin real sick of the tight reigns he holds over the Mavs. I wish he would relax and let them play.

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    Just when I think Dallas can't get more pathetic, they go down another level. amazing

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    the Mavs got outplayed, AJ got outcoached

    i don't think they got outplayed...that game was pretty much back and forth all nite, save for the brief 10 pt Mav lead in the 3rd qtr...they had 3 chances the last 34 seconds and couldn't hit a shot....

    as for avery...he's a control freak, which hampers that team at times.

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    Please look at the free throw disparity.

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    i don't think they got outplayed...that game was pretty much back and forth all nite, save for the brief 10 pt Mav lead in the 3rd qtr...they had 3 chances the last 34 seconds and couldn't hit a shot....

    as for avery...he's a control freak, which hampers that team at times.
    When you're on the road, and your star player shoots 1 less free throw than the entire home team, and you still can't pull out a victory: They got outplayed.

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    Maybe he could forward the tape of Dirk tripping over his own giant feet and the refs whistling Udoka for the "foul."
    Gotta take issue with you on that one. Be objective. The replay clearly showed Udoka's left foot moving under Dirk's feet and Dirk tripping over Udoka's foot. It was a foul.

    Now the play last game where Manu really DID trip over his own feet and got the foul called is more like what you are talking about! That was funny. The Hawks were pissed, and they were right. They never touched him.

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    It's true - TV cameras don't miss a thing.
    Look, I know you're in an especially whiny mood this morning, but Terry said that Bowen elbowed him when he came down from his layup attempt.

    Go back and watch the play again, Bowen didn't touch him and/or elbow him.

    But what would Terry know compared to your crack knowledge of the situation?

    The bottom line is that Terry is insisting Bowen elbowed him on the way down from the layup attempt, and the replay shows exactly zero contact between them.

    Pull the panties out of your crack and relax.

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    Gotta take issue with you on that one. Be objective. The replay clearly showed Udoka's left foot moving under Dirk's feet and Dirk tripping over Udoka's foot. It was a foul.

    Now the play last game where Manu really DID trip over his own feet and got the foul called is more like what you are talking about! That was funny. The Hawks were pissed, and they were right. They never touched him.

    TNT replayed it six times, Dirk tripped over his own feet.

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    I don't think they have any reason to be mad. They got 31 ft attempts to our 22, I would be thrilled if the Spurs got that on a rival's homecourt. But I'm not surprised...the Mavs organization always publicly es about the officials when they lose. Pretty pathetic and I'm glad no one in the Spurs organization does that. Oh well, I hope they keep thinking they are losing because of the officials and make no adjustments.

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    If Jason Terry didn't have the emotional stability of a teenage girl during puberty, the Mavs could have won this game.
    Mavs probably would've won this game. Bowen is what he is, you don't throw a hissy fit on the court and get a tech, you get him back when the refs aren't looking.

    I'm disgusted that Avery whined about the refs on the final play instead of taking responsibility for ing up by leaving Kidd on the bench. You're not going to get a borderline call on the road at the end of the game. STFU Avery.

    All I will say about Terry is that I understand why he gets under the skin of opposing fans, but you guys have to understand why Bowen is reviled by opposing players and fans. He straddles the fence between hardnosed and dirty play.

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    This is where Ill give Dirk some credit, I dont really remember him whining and crying after a loss. He is what he is, a great shooter (and not too much else). Jason Terry is a punk and cant take the torque, esp. in big games. Avery is a good coach who let his ego get in the way last night. Cuban can be entertaining and is probably a good owner (to Dallas fans) but man, what a crybaby. This is what separates good organizations, ie Spurs, Pistons, Lakers (yep) and the Jazz from a bunch of loser organizations ie Mavs, Suns, Heat, Kings ect...

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    Terry complaining about cheapshots.
    That's exactly right. Not only does he have a history -- punching Finley in what the announcers euphemistically called his "stomach" -- but he was chippy through the whole game last night. Several times he pushed off, bumped, flailed his arms at people and glared at them.

    Also I can't believe Cuban complaining that Danny Crawford called a tech because he hates the Mavs. Geez, look at the replay. Terry goes right at Bowen, screaming obscenities and gesturing at him. That's a tech in any ref's book. Bowen, wisely, does not move towards him or respond, or he would have gotten a tech too.

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    If anyone has footage of this mysterious flying elbow please post it. I certainly didn't see it on the broadcast at all.

    Even if Bowen threw an elbow Terry is a complete moron for letting it get to him. Those two technical fouls cost them the game right there. Completely swung the momentum back to SAS favor and you really don't want to go into the 4th quarter tied with SAS. They will grind it out and 9/10 beat your ass.

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    Makes you say hmmm... YoMamaIsCallin's Avatar
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    TNT replayed it six times, Dirk tripped over his own feet.
    I guess we didn't watch the same replay? It was obvious to me at the time. I've erased it from my DVR so I can't watch it again or post it, unfortunately.

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    If anyone has footage of this mysterious flying elbow please post it. I certainly didn't see it on the broadcast at all.
    You're just trying to verify whether an elbow took place like you're supposed to do. No surprises there.


    Even if Bowen threw an elbow Terry is a complete moron for letting it get to him. Those two technical fouls cost them the game right there. Completely swung the momentum back to SAS favor and you really don't want to go into the 4th quarter tied with SAS. They will grind it out and 9/10 beat your ass
    Terry's just being the ill-tempered hothead he's supposed to be. No surprises there. Congratulations on your team winning last night, SpursDynasty.

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