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    Yes, but how many key times is he on the floor? How many fourth quarters? I don't think Pop has given up on him and neither have I. But like I said my patience is wearing very thin.
    Most teams will put a smaller line up going into the fourth quarter. Besides that, he's a very poor free throw shooter. And though i wouldn't count Rasho as some sort of a clutch performer, he has always responded very well when Pop used him in the fourth quarter this season. He had a couple of big offensive rebounds in the first game against the Lakers and he made a couple of jumpers in a row against Philadelphia too, those are the two games i remember.

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    Most teams will put a smaller line up going into the fourth quarter. Besides that, he's a very poor free throw shooter. And though i wouldn't count Rasho as some sort of a clutch performer, he has always responded very well when Pop used him in the fourth quarter this season. He had a couple of big offensive rebounds in the first game against the Lakers and he made a couple of jumpers in a row against Philadelphia too, those are the two games i remember.
    2 games you can remember? How many games have we played so far?

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    . He had a couple of big offensive rebounds in the first game against the Lakers and he made a couple of jumpers in a row against Philadelphia too
    I was at the Philadelphia game and i do remember Rasho hitting jumpers at the end.

    He kept hitting from the same spot, the right elbow.

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    Heh, damn new posters complaining about our Janruary fests.

    Com'on man, what else are we going to about now?

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    with rasho, i i want to see is reb. and blocked shots, i could care less how many points he's scores, cuse the spurs don't need him to score, its reb's and defense.

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    Actually, the Spurs do need him to make 2 foot shots.

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    Rasho needs to score on putbacks, and on those 15-ft jump shots he's often left open for as the last option. 6 - 10 pts a game for a 7-footer really isn't very much to ask for. Rasho has to do no more than what he did in his first season as a Spur. Very mysterious that his second year, he's not at least matching last season.

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    This from the person who started yet another thread about Rasho.
    You have me confused Bro, I never "started" a thread about Rasho!

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    Rasho is the biggest star of this forum! Almost everything is talking about him.
    He is the man!
    They are in love with him, esspecially sequ!

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    No one expects him to get 15 and 12 or be an AllStar. How about just some consistent effort?
    You have to realize that Rasho's going up against different players each game. Players will play him a different way depending on what their trying to do defensively. It also depends on the skill level on the player that's defending him. Rasho might be going against a player who he has had success in the past. Other nights, Rasho might be facing a player he's been unsuccessful against or is a good defender. I think some of the "inconsistency" that some of you are talking about might be brought on more by the opponent then by his play. Rasho is not going to be someone he is not !! Rasho is going to play the game that fits him, and only him, not this or that player. One good example is DR. As big and strong as he was, and as fast as he was, when he was 1 foot from the basket, what did he usually do? Lay it up instead of slamming it home. He didn't have the aggressive at ude that say a Shaq does. DR is DR!! The same goes for Rasho!

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    and on those 15-ft jump shots he's often left open for as the last option
    Yesterday he had 1 of those at the end of the quarter.

    Rasho yesterday brought rebounding and decent defense on Marcus Camby.

    Yet, as usual thats not enough.

    he could average 12 rebounds a game, wich, everyone whined he wasnt doing well a couple weeks ago, and play good D, and someone will always have something to find to about.


    they say yesterday he had 6 shots.

    Lets say he makes half and has 6 points.

    6 points, makes the difference between a bad game, and a good game??

    Unreal.

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    Yesterday he had 1 of those at the end of the quarter.

    Rasho yesterday brought rebounding and decent defense on Marcus Camby.

    Yet, as usual thats not enough.

    he could average 12 rebounds a game, wich, everyone whined he wasnt doing well a couple weeks ago, and play good D, and someone will always have something to find to about.


    they say yesterday he had 6 shots.

    Lets say he makes half and has 6 points.

    6 points, makes the difference between a bad game, and a good game??

    Unreal.

    Camby had 10 points and 15 boards. His season average is 8.8 ppg and 8.8 rpg. How is that good defense on him? Maybe average defense. Rasho meanwhile had 0 points and 11 boards. Some of those boards were missed tip backs. He needs to step up and become atleast consistently average in scoring and rebounding. I want him to atleast have the numbers from last year.

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    Rasho does need to step up his boards, i dont care about his points.

    Rasho is a starting center in the Western Conference.

    He only averages 6 boards per game.

    1.5 boards per quarter....

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    Rasho does need to step up his boards, i dont care about his points.

    Rasho is a starting center in the Western Conference.

    He only averages 6 boards per game.

    1.5 boards per quarter....
    Do you actually know that rasho averages 12.7 rebound per 48 minutes?

    Some other players for example:
    Chris Webber 12.6
    Dirk Nowitzki 12.5
    Carlos Boozer 12.5
    Pau Gasol 12.2
    Brad Miller 12.1
    Kenyon Martin 11.4

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    Do you actually know that rasho averages 12.7 rebound per 48 minutes?

    Some other players for example:
    Chris Webber 12.6
    Dirk Nowitzki 12.5
    Carlos Boozer 12.5
    Pau Gasol 12.2
    Brad Miller 12.1
    Kenyon Martin 11.4
    Yeah that's a great list of people I rather have than Rasho.

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    Yeah that's a great list of people I rather have than Rasho.
    And pay twice as much for weaker D and better O?

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    And pay twice as much for weaker D and better O?
    Stats per 48 minutes mean nothing. Tony Massenburg averages almost 11 boards per 48 minutes. How much is his salary?

    Yeah and Pau Gasol is not worth his salary. And he sucks defensively.

    Radoslav Nesterovic
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    2004-05 Statistics
    PPG 5.5
    RPG 6.7
    APG 1.0
    SPG .34
    BPG 1.40
    FG% .419
    FT% .450
    3P% .000
    MPG 25.3

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    PPG 19.2
    RPG 8.7
    APG 2.7
    SPG .63
    BPG 1.53
    FG% .512
    FT% .772
    3P% .000
    MPG 34.2
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    Stats per 48 minutes mean nothing.
    Except when you compare them for the same player.

    Rasho is rebounding at about the same rate as last season. His blocks and points are of course down. Certainly he can improve.

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    And pay twice as much for weaker D and better O?
    Personally, I feel that Gasol and Dirk are worth twice as much as Rasho. They might not be the greatest defenders, but they are still ten times better.

    The Spurs would look pretty good with Boozer playing big minutes next to Duncan, too.

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    So we're going to pretend every player in the NBA is available?

    I'll take Shaq.

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    Um, no. The idea is to look at Rasho's stats and contributions to determine his value compared to other NBA players.

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    So we're going to pretend every player in the NBA is available?

    I'll take Shaq.
    It was just a comparrison.

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    I'll still take Shaq.

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    lmao at the slovenians and their love affair with the stiff. Oh man, I love you guys either way.

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    I hope Yao Ming can join the spurs to form a new two-tower, and then a dynasty...

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