Never did I say the Lakers were a lock or the best in the NBA. I said they will be a force in the west if healthy. I am expecting them to be very compe ive and tough to beat 4 times. No we arent a lock but we arent very far from more than possibly getting the championship back. Yeah les arent easy and the Spurs are the team to beat. I know that.
Who said we were? BSPN? When have they ever been right? Nobody takes them seriously. Anyhow, Celtics and Spurs are the teams to beat. Detroit! We should be able to take them. The OP is a dumb ass attention for starting this thread. Same ol Detroit gets no love from the media bull . Same you guys spew a lot. If you know you're the better team that's all you need to know. Why cry and about it?
I also respect the out of the Spurs. They ended our dynasty and gave us the worst dethroning in NBA history. 28 blowout was quite impressive and the fact that they acted humble and classy after that game was something else. They had every right to act like assholes but they didnt want to act like that.That was a 6 game series that easily should have ended in 5.
I know some Lakers fans do, but a lot don't and many Lakers fans have been talking on the boards. Some, like Tradition, Medvedenko, etc. are very reasonable and have been good to have discussions with. But the talking from other Lakers fans has gotten on my nerves. I still have the Lakers as playing better than the Spurs right now but come playoff time, hopefully the Spurs will be playing better, in my eyes at least.
Don't hate the players (lakers) hate the game. Espn is ecstatic because they know they will great ratings if the lakers make it to the finals. They see a team that wont be stopped with Bynum, they might be going overboard in calling the lakers the best without Bynum but we're beating all of the so called top teams in the west without him so how can you argue with them. Saying Utah is better is ridiculous, San Antonio might be equal but I wouldn't say they're better either.
Cause The Lakers are not the best team in the NBA that's why.
Where the were these laker fans back in 2004?
Where were all the Detroit fans? Pistons fan base is so sorry they had to be adopted by Spurstalk out of pity.Where the were these laker fans back in 2004?
Yeah your right were just sorry Piston fans
Interesting to note that the Lakers are giving up 100.6 points per game. No NBA champion has given up 100+ PPG in the last dozen years. The last team to do that was the 94-95 Rockets. Of course, that team had a weak regular season (finished with 47 wins), but was a veteran reigning champ who added another veteran in Drexler midway. Not really a comparison to this green Laker team who has added a talented player in Gasol but who, unfortunately is soft and inexperienced at postseason play.
A more valid comparison would be the 1991 Bulls, who were a relatively young team, actually gave up more than 100 PPG a game but won the le easily (15-2 in the playoffs). But then that Bulls team was battle scarred (coming up short against the Pistons and learning along the way), and was a better offensive team than this year's Lakers (at 110 PPG, they had a +9.0 PPG differential).
So what the Lakers are attempting to hasn't been done in nearly 2 decades, and then too it was done by a team which had good but not great playoff experience.
Lakers Fans Put Down the "Lakers Crack" for right now
Lakers Fans Put Down the "Lakers Crack" for right now
by J Lee (Contributor)
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1..._for_right_now
To qoute T.J. Simers from the latimes.com
"Lakers, Lakers, Lakers, Lakers" and "Kobe, Kobe, Kobe, Kobe." Throw in some, "Gasol, Gasol, Gasol, Gasol." Add them all up and we're just beginning the month of March.
The schedule for this month looks something like this: the march to madness is on, daylights saving starts on the ninth, no holidays this month, and the NBA playoffs dosen't start for a month and a half.
To qoute my friend we, "gotta stop smoking that Laker crack."
It's ture Lakers fans, it is way to early in the season to be this high on the "Laker crack."
In case people have forgotten, the Lakers have yet to make it out of the first round of the playoffs since Oneal left.
The "deep" Lakers bench is composed of players in their early to mid twenties. Jordan Farmar, Sasha Vujacic, and Ronnie Turiaf, to name a few, have yet to be tested in the palyoffs.
Yes these players have played playoffs games. However, none of the players on the Lakers' roster, except Kobe Bryant, and Derek Fisher, know what's like to play in a true playoff games. Pau Gasol was not expected to lead the Grizzles to a deep playoff run so the Lakers' second option dose not have playoff experience either.
True playoff games are games in witch you are expected to win. The last two years that Kobe Bryant dragged the Lakers in the post-season, the Lakers were not expected to beat the Phenoix Suns. The Lakers players were not expected to perform, and as a result there was no pressure.
This year the Lakers' young players are expected to produce. I'm not saying that the Lakers' bench players will choke. All I'm saying is that no one is going to be shocked if they do.
Second, Andrew Bynum is still only twenty years old. Bynum has indeed improved beyond recognition this year.
The problem is he only has a little over three weaks to be reintergrated into the offense. And if people forget, Andrew has not played in a single meaningful playoff game. It was a player by the name of Kwame Brown that got the minutes.
There is something thats quite not right when the guy thats supposed to push your team over the top is an untested twenty year old center that's still learning to play the game. And the fact that, if he returns at all, he's returning form injury dosen't help at all.
Third, the ten game win streak is not a very impressive one. When your team has Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, and Lamar Odom on it you better be able to beat the teams that the Lakers beat.
The teams that the Lakers beat were the Raptors, a depleted Wizards, Nets, Magic, Heat, Bobcats, Timberwolves, Hawks, post-Oneal Suns, Clippers, Sonics, a Bradon Roy-less Blazers, and the Heat again.
No disrespect to the teams mentioned above, but those teams are subpar teams with the execption of Pheniox and Orlando. The Lakers actually also lost the the Hawks and to the Portland yesterday.
As much of a Lakers fan that I am, I'm not convinced yet.
I want to actually see Andrew Bynum on the floor with Pau Gasol. Not just how great they're going to be if and when he gets back.
I want to see the Lakers get out of the first round. Two years ago the Lakers looked like they were going to beat the Suns being up 3-1, and they choked. I won't even mention last year.
Yes the Lakers are having a great season. Yes the Lakers is a top five team, and second in the west. The win streak was good to see. Let's just not get ahead of oursleves just yet.
Do what the players are saying and take it game by game. I looking forward to the playoffs for once, and hey mabey well be able to "smoke the Lakers crack" in the playoffs as well as the regular season.
If the lakers keep getting 50 free throws, than they will be the best.
I'm not expecting to win a ring this year. I just don't like being told that by a en Piston fan or you mother ers for that matter. Our defense sucks way too much to win a ring unless we get lucky like the Cavs did and make it all the way to the Finals which in case I hope we meet these Piston slugs because I believe we can take them.
Nice faulty logic you got there.
First off, Kobe, Derek Fisher, Luke Walton and Phil Jackson aren't battle scarred? Are you stupid?
The Lakers were in the playoffs the last two seasons, losing a heartbreaker to Phoenix and played them tough the next season. Playoff experience will not be an issue. You're dumb if you think otherwise.
As for your 100 ppg bull , thats nothing but statistical masturbation. The fact that it has been done before makes you're theory laughable and moot. Heres a better theory: Every Phil Jackson team that has won 40 games before losing 20 has won the NBA championship. Suck on that.
But hey, everyone with a brain knows Andrew Bynum and Trevor Ariza make the Lakers a much better defensive team. Right now the Lakers are 5th in the league in defensive effeciency and thats WITHOUT Bynum and Ariza the past month and a half.
Dallas has played 3 great teams on the road, the first one after Kidd practiced once with his team and lost the last two on the final possession. The last two could've gone either way. STFU.
Thanks for making my point. All you have is 4 names, one of which is the coach. Out of the 3 players Luke Walton sucks and wouldn't get a minute if Ariza is healthy. I was comparing this team of newbies to the 95 Rockets where 90% of the team had a ring. You know the likes of Hakeem, Drexler, Otis Smith, Horry, Cassell, Kenny Smith, Maxwell. That is if you were born before 95 which I'm not so sure now.
Getting your ass waxed two years in a row is playoff experience? You actually regressed from a 7-game defeat to a 5-game thumping. And even then Gasol, Bynum, Ariza etc are still new to playoff basketball.
Too bad nobody gives a 40-win championship. Defense wins championships in this league. Playoff basketball has a different tone and tenor. Right now you are no better than the 2005 Suns who scored a lot and reminded everyone of Showtime. Win a playoff series and then we can talk.
If your mom had balls she'd be your dad. Wake me up when Bynum and Ariza are back and are playing. If Ariza starts then Odom goes to the bench and your offensive versatility and rebounding esge is lost. Wake me up when Ariza shoots 30% from 3.
Vujacic and Farmar sure showed their veteran heads tonight. The playoffs will be twice as intense. What happens when Violet Palmer doesn't ref every game, and Kobe doesn't go to the line 27 times?
That is a good core right there.
You're rather naive if you think it couldn't be an issue, especially if the Lakers go up against experienced teams that have far superior experience playing together than this Lakers team. Hint: There's three major ones you should be worried about in the Western conference.The Lakers were in the playoffs the last two seasons, losing a heartbreaker to Phoenix and played them tough the next season. Playoff experience will not be an issue. You're dumb if you think otherwise.
Cool. Every Phil Jackson team to do that prior to this year had two hall of famers on the team. Suck on that.As for your 100 ppg bull , thats nothing but statistical masturbation. The fact that it has been done before makes you're theory laughable and moot. Heres a better theory: Every Phil Jackson team that has won 40 games before losing 20 has won the NBA championship. Suck on that.
I think Bynum will be a nice piece for the Lakers to have defensively. He'll block some shots and alter many. Ariza I don't know about, only because I honestly haven't seen him play. I'll have to see how he performs when he gets back from injuryBut hey, everyone with a brain knows Andrew Bynum and Trevor Ariza make the Lakers a much better defensive team. Right now the Lakers are 5th in the league in defensive effeciency and thats WITHOUT Bynum and Ariza the past month and a half.
The Lakers are a very good team. I'm not so sure Lakers fans should be so y until they do something in the playoffs.
could have should have do not count
And if the Mavs can't beat any of them that means they're 4th best
No it does not, but barely losing on the road to the Spurs and Lakers does not mean Dallas sucks, which seems to be your argument.
Findog, it's ducks
I used to think Sequ was just being a jackass, but now I understand where he was coming from.Findog, it's ducks
You're rather naive if you think that will be an issue. Seems like you don't watch Laker games.
Cool, this Laker team does have two hall of famers: Kobe and Phil Jackson. Not to mention a future hall of famer in Andrew Bynum (yes I said it).
But I was being sarcastic about the 40 and 20 thing. What I said means nothing, but it's sure as more legit than some crackpot 100 ppg theory the previous Spur fan spewed.
Enough said. Proving my earlier point that you haven't watched much of the Lakers this year. Chemistry is not an issue with his team, neither is playoff experience. People are just reaching at this point.I think Bynum will be a nice piece for the Lakers to have defensively. He'll block some shots and alter many. Ariza I don't know about, only because I honestly haven't seen him play. I'll have to see how he performs when he gets back from injury
Spurs are a very good team. I'm not so sure Spurs fan should be so y until they prove they can win back to back les.
At this point in the season after overhauling a third of our roster, I'll take that. We got 9 out of our next 10 at home. It's going to take 10-15 games before these guys really begin to click with Kidd.And if the Mavs can't beat any of them that means they're 4th best
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