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    You should really just shut up with your trash already. You are a complete biggotted moron. I understand you're a real loser, but keep your stupid moronic lies to yourself. Don't call me what You really are. The dumb thing about it is, You have no basis whatsoever to say that about me, you just spew it and hope it sticks.

    You really are stupid.

    Campbells soup kitchens and politics don't mix.

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    Nader is more in line with my beliefs. I am anti-Obama because he's a phony, and a plagiarist, yes, moreso than Hillary. And Edwards wasn't vague, he was very specific, more specific than any of the candidates along with Kucinich.
    Remember when you said Obama plagiarized from Edwards because Obama referred to his wife, Mic e, as "the love of my life" and you were upset because Edwards had been referring to Elizabeth in the same manner on the campaign trail.

    Nice to see you are focused on the issues that will make a difference in this country.

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    Are you ing kidding me? Because Obama is more phony?

    WHAT THE ?

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    Please try and stop my head from exploding, but wtf is more phony than continuing a marriage simply out of political convience or carpet bagging your ass to NY to run for a n easy senate seat merely as a stepping stone to the White House.

    Give me a ing break.

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    Remember when you said Obama plagiarized from Edwards because Obama referred to his wife, Mic e, as "the love of my life" and you were upset because Edwards had been referring to Elizabeth in the same manner on the campaign trail.

    Nice to see you are focused on the issues that will make a difference in this country.
    Remember everything else he copied from Edwards?


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    Rememeber everything else he copied from Edwards?



    Why don't you buy the Obama is the Messiah message? Are you a racist?

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    Rememeber everything else he copied from Edwards?
    I can't see your youtube. Delete the "v=" part of the code.

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    Remember everything else he copied from Edwards?



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    Remember everything else he copied from Edwards?
    Again, like I've told you before, both Edwards and Obama had David Axelrod as their primary campaign strategist. It's no surprise that there are similar themes and phrases throughout their campaigns.

    However, looking at the clip you posted, the phrase you complain about is a cliche'd catch-phrase. Even assuming that Edwards created that phrase on his own (more than likely he, like Obama, got it from Axelrod, who probably got it from some other politician), why would the use of such a cliche'd phrase like the one above (or the "love of my life" phrase that upset you) be such an important factor to you when it comes to choosing a president?

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    Again, like I've told you before, both Edwards and Obama had David Axelrod as their primary campaign strategist. It's not surprise that there are similar themes and phrases throughout their campaigns. However, looking at the clip you posted, the phrase is a cliche'd catch-phrase. Even assuming that Edwards created that phrase on his own (more than likely he, like Obama, got it from Axelrod), why would the use of such a cliche'd phrase like the one above (or the "love of my life" phrase that upset you) be such an important factor to you when it comes to choosing a president?
    Everything he says is copied from someone else. The guy is a phony. Are Dems usually in agreement on alot of issues? Yes, of course they are. But this guy steals people's actual words for his own personal gain.

    It's obvious. If Edwards said things one day, (like "we need a President in the White House who's not afraid to use the word unions") then Obama copies him the next day at his speech, why the would I want the Plagiarist as my President?

    The guy isn't original, he's a copycat and the media gave him a free ride. And Obama sure isn't complaining now that he's getting Union support backing, but when Edwards had it, he had a problem with it, even called it underhanded.

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    Everything he says is copied from someone else. The guy is a phony. Are Dems usually in agreement on alot of issues? Yes, of course they are. But this guy steals people's actual words for his own personal gain.
    This is was I don't get - Obama spends his time after graduating from Columbia University in a low-paying job as a community orgainzer, helping those people who had lost their jobs, housing, and healthcare and yet, you call him a phony.

    After leaving that job to go to Harvard Law School, where he was highly accomplished (editor of Harvard Law Review), he turns down guaranteed wealth to become a civil rights lawyer (not much money there) and yet, you call him a phony.

    He gets elected to the Illinois state legislature where he passes progressive legislation (health care, civil rights, etc.) and yet, you call him a phony.

    He gets elected to the US Senate and based on his legislation and votes, the National Journal ranks him as the most liberal voting senator in the US Senate and yet, you call him a phony.

    I don't get it. It's as if you don't care about policies or actions, you just care about Edwards rhetoric and who should get credit for meaningless catch phrases.

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    This is was I don't get - Obama spends his time after graduating from Columbia University in a low-paying job as a community orgainzer, helping those people who had lost their jobs, housing, and healthcare and yet, you call him a phony.

    After leaving that job to go to Harvard Law School, where he was highly accomplished (editor of Harvard Law Review), he turns down guaranteed wealth to become a civil rights lawyer (not much money there) and yet, you call him a phony.

    He gets elected to the Illinois state legislature where he passes progressive legislation (health care, civil rights, etc.) and yet, you call him a phony.

    He gets elected to the US Senate and based on his legislation and votes, the National Journal ranks him as the most liberal voting senator in the US Senate and yet, you call him a phony.

    I don't get it. It's as if you don't care about policies or actions, you just care about Edwards rhetoric and who should get credit for meaningless catch phrases.
    Yes, he IS a phony. After all those "credentials", you would think that he wouldn't have to copy and steal from others and that maybe he'd have some original ideas for running for "President of the United States of America".

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    Yes, he IS a phony. After all those "credentials", you would think that he wouldn't have to copy and steal from others and that maybe he'd have some original ideas for running for "President of the United States of America".
    Let me ask you this, how would you compare Edwards' "credentials" to Obama's "credentials"?

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    Yes, he IS a phony. After all those "credentials", you would think that he wouldn't have to copy and steal from others and that maybe he'd have some original ideas for running for "President of the United States of America".
    He's running for President, not writing a college essay. Get over it.

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    This is was I don't get - Obama spends his time after graduating from Columbia University in a low-paying job as a community orgainzer, helping those people who had lost their jobs, housing, and healthcare and yet, you call him a phony.

    After leaving that job to go to Harvard Law School, where he was highly accomplished (editor of Harvard Law Review), he turns down guaranteed wealth to become a civil rights lawyer (not much money there) and yet, you call him a phony.

    He gets elected to the Illinois state legislature where he passes progressive legislation (health care, civil rights, etc.) and yet, you call him a phony.

    He gets elected to the US Senate and based on his legislation and votes, the National Journal ranks him as the most liberal voting senator in the US Senate and yet, you call him a phony.

    I don't get it. It's as if you don't care about policies or actions, you just care about Edwards rhetoric and who should get credit for meaningless catch phrases.
    I'm really really dissapointed in SA210's stance. It's so borederline idiotic and I expect much better.

    These guys hire campaign managers for a reason. You think Edwards was the first to champion change in Washingon DC? Thats such a ludicrus idea.

    The only thing that I can think of is that SA210 is upset over Edwards not being able to manufacture a viable campaign and has somehow decided to channel that anger and frustration in Obama's direction.

    Obama has several flaws, but to act as if Obama's message being simillar to Edwards message is somehow an act of agregious plagerism is the phoniest and very disingenious when you consider the context of all political campaigns.

    Its this kind of bull thinking that got George Bush elected to 2 terms. I was hoping we were going to get past it this time around, but it definetly looks as though I was wrong.

    I have no doubts Obama will be the nominee. All I am afraid of now is how stupidly Hilary will attack him between now and then.

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    Yes, he IS a phony. After all those "credentials", you would think that he wouldn't have to copy and steal from others and that maybe he'd have some original ideas for running for "President of the United States of America".
    Change in DC is an original idea attirbutable to Edwards?

    Wow, give me a ing break.

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    Yes, he IS a phony. After all those "credentials", you would think that he wouldn't have to copy and steal from others and that maybe he'd have some original ideas for running for "President of the United States of America".
    C'mon man, seriously, who's the phony?

    Hedge-Fund Ties Help Edwards Campaign
    Firms Increase Political Gifts


    By John Solomon and Alec MacGillis
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Monday, April 23, 2007; A01

    Two years ago, former senator John Edwards of North Carolina, gearing up for his second run at the Democratic presidential nomination, gave a speech decrying the "two different economies in this country: one for wealthy insiders and then one for everybody else."

    Four months later, he began working for the kind of firm that to many Wall Street critics embodies the economy of wealthy insiders -- a hedge fund.


    Edwards became a consultant for Fortress Investment Group, a New York-based firm known mainly for its hedge funds, just as the funds were gaining prominence in the financial world -- and in the public consciousness, where awe over their outsize returns has mixed with misgivings about a rarefied industry that is, on the whole, run by and for extremely wealthy people and operates largely in secrecy.

    A midsize but growing player in the hedge fund industry with more than $30 billion in assets, Fortress was the first hedge fund manager to go public, thereby subjecting itself to far more scrutiny. But it was an unusual choice of employment for Edwards, who for years has decried offshore tax shelters as part of his broader campaign to reduce inequality. While Fortress was incorporated in Delaware, its hedge funds were incorporated in the Cayman Islands, enabling its partners and foreign investors to defer or avoid paying U.S. taxes.

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    There are no truly orginal ideas anywhere near today's Democratic party outside of maybe Dennis Kucinich. You know what you get labeled as when you provide original ideas? Ask people like Ron Paul.

    Let me know when today's average politician doesn't need a staff to draw up positions and write speeches and then maybe we can talk about who has original ideas.

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    I'd explain to SA210 why his tantrum is so laughable and pathetic, but in fact I really hope there are a few million or so other liberals just like him.

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    John Edwards is authentic?

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