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    Yea, I went to his site.
    What's your point?

    Anyway, show me the proof about the muslim thing and all the other hillarious bull Bama supporters are spewing out.

    As for her chances to win the nomination, you forget about the Super Delegates and about the redo in Michigan and Florida.
    The "Muslim" thing was started by Insight Magazine, which as far as I know has no ties to the Clinton campaign.

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    Hillary would welcome a redo of the primaries.

    She does exceptionally well with Hispanics, which compose a large percentage of Florida's population.

    She does very well with working class folk, which compose a great percentage of the Michigan cons uency.

    how dare you suggest she doesn't just quit and bow out to the great black hope??

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    He's not giving policy speeches Pee Wee, he's giving campaign speeches. There is a very large difference between the two types of speeches and one is not going to be used when campaigning. I'll leave it up to you to decide which of those two that is. The point stands that he has explained how he's going to do things.

    It is absolutely foolish to bring up Obama and a typist. If you want to compare who's staff does more of the speechwritting and which of these candidates has had their carreers molded for them you may want review things with the person you love to bash and the person you apparently simply love.

    Obama is writes many of his own speeches. Clinton? No. Clinton had her path to the presidency carved out for her by her advisors who icked a place for her to run where she'd easily win a seat in the senate and have great exposure. You think NY is her home state?? Have you ever heard of the term carpet bagger? Obama isn't the one running off the name given to him by a spouse.

    The Muslim thing has been well do ented. You can't prove that her camp released that photo, but you can certainly look at her quotes regarding the situation. Its obvious. Are you seriously trying to claim that Clinton isn't running a dirty in the mud campaign? You can't possibly be serious when they really aren't denying this. You want me to give you the links (or can you actually search for them?) on where Clinton keeps comparing Obama to McCain saying he's worse?

    As for her chances, its pure math. She has to crush Obama in EVERY state from here on out by 20% or so to come close to catching him in delegates. Considering she's going to lose several states from here on out just how do you propose she has a shot to win the nomination?

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    She does exceptionally well with Hispanics for a reason...

    Why don't you lay down the reason as to why that is?

    Go ahead, finish that thought.

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    Hillary would welcome a redo of the primaries.

    She does exceptionally well with Hispanics, which compose a large percentage of Florida's population.

    She does very well with working class folk, which compose a great percentage of the Michigan cons uency.
    You're out of your ing mind. Not only do you spew bull , you spew bull contrary to what the Clinton campaign is saying themselves. They do NOT want a do over because a do over wouldn't gain them very many delegates.

    They've come out and said they won't support do overs, so how exactly do you figure they'd welcome it?


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    He's not giving policy speeches Pee Wee, he's giving campaign speeches. There is a very large difference between the two types of speeches and one is not going to be used when campaigning. I'll leave it up to you to decide which of those two that is. The point stands that he has explained how he's going to do things.
    Hillary talks about how she'll get things done in her campaign speeches. I guess Bama is just incapable of doing that.


    It is absolutely foolish to bring up Obama and a typist. If you want to compare who's staff does more of the speechwritting and which of these candidates has had their carreers molded for them you may want review things with the person you love to bash and the person you apparently simply love.
    Career being molded??


    Hillary has been in politics since before you were born. She's done more for the Democratic Party than Bama can ever dream of. That's just a re ed statement.


    Obama is writes many of his own speeches.
    Looks like you need some one to write your posts for you.

    Clinton? No. Clinton had her path to the presidency carved out for her by her advisors who icked a place for her to run where she'd easily win a seat in the senate and have great exposure. You think NY is her home state?? Have you ever heard of the term carpet bagger? Obama isn't the one running off the name given to him by a spouse.

    It's easy to write your own speeches when you repeat what other people have said.

    Name given to him by a spouse?
    Are you re ed?

    It's her fault she's married?

    Illinois isn't Bama's home state either, so what's your point?

    The Muslim thing has been well do ented. You can't prove that her camp released that photo, but you can certainly look at her quotes regarding the situation. Its obvious. Are you seriously trying to claim that Clinton isn't running a dirty in the mud campaign? You can't possibly be serious when they really aren't denying this. You want me to give you the links (or can you actually search for them?) on where Clinton keeps comparing Obama to McCain saying he's worse?
    Proof of the muslim picture??
    Provide the proof.
    If you can.

    As for mud and all that , name me one clean campaign by either side in the history of U.S. Presidential races. It was done as early as Thomas Jefferson.

    Read a history book.


    As for her chances, its pure math. She has to crush Obama in EVERY state from here on out by 20% or so to come close to catching him in delegates. Considering she's going to lose several states from here on out just how do you propose she has a shot to win the nomination?

    Super Delegates.

    Do you know about them?

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    You're out of your ing mind. Not only do you spew bull , you spew bull contrary to what the Clinton campaign is saying themselves. They do NOT want a do over because a do over wouldn't gain them very many delegates.

    They've come out and said they won't support do overs, so how exactly do you figure they'd welcome it?

    No, no.

    You obviously can't read.

    The Clinton Campaign doesn't want to Caucus the two states, which is what Bama is pushing for.

    They are responsive, though, to a redo of the primaries.

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    Barak does talk about how he's going to get done in speeches. He just doesn't give detailed plans. Neither does Hillary. There is very little difference in what they do in their speeches with the exception that Clinton isn't nearly as good at it as Obama is. Politics 101 - take one of your opponents strengths and make it a weakness. Thats why they attack him on this front. Not because there is any substance behind what the attacks say, but rather because people like you buy it hook line and sinker.

    No doubt that Hillary Clinton has a done a lot in her early years but I don't know what to tell you if you don't understand that everything she has done since her husband was in the white house has been done in order to advance her goal of becoming president.

    Obama has a history in Illinois that goes beyond politics. He was there as an activist and has lived there for quite some time. He did not move to that state simply for political reasons. This is indisputable.

    Clinton, on the other hand, DID move to New York simply to run for the Senate. This is ALSO indisputable. Why NY and why not Arkansas? Because the exposure the NY seat brought her in order for a run at the presidency.

    I don't know if she stayed with Bill soley based on political aspirations, but I do know that it had to come up at some point. Had Hillary gotten divorced from Bill Clinton during the many times he has cheated on her you could kiss any type of presidential run goodbye.

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    Simple question here:

    If Clinton is behind in both the popular vote and pledged delegates do you feel the super delegates should overturn that or vote along the lines that the people have set forth? Do you believe there is any chance of them overturning the popular vote and/or pledged delegates?

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    Why don't you lay down the reason as to why that is?

    Go ahead, finish that thought.
    Apparently, I don't need to.



    But for those not paying attention, I will.

    She's not black.

    Race card played.

    Next?

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    Apparently, I don't need to.



    But for those not paying attention, I will.

    She's not black.

    Race card played.

    Next?
    So, it's her fault she's white?

    But, what does all that have to do with the Hispanic vote?

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    Simple question here:

    If Clinton is behind in both the popular vote and pledged delegates do you feel the super delegates should overturn that or vote along the lines that the people have set forth? Do you believe there is any chance of them overturning the popular vote and/or pledged delegates?
    The Super Delegates get to vote any which way they want, regardless of anything else.

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    So, it's her fault she's white?

    But, what does all that have to do with the Hispanic vote?
    Dude, he's saying htat hispanics voted for her over Obama because she's not black.

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    The Super Delegates get to vote any which way they want, regardless of anything else.
    Thank you for stating the obvious. Thats not what I asked. I asked if you thought they should vote opposite of what the pledge delegate count and poplular vote are.

    I did not ask if they could. I asked if you thought they should.

    Wanna try to answer again?

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    i'd vote for a black president if i felt he were more genuine and if i actually bought into all his bull . so no, as a hispanic, i did not vote for hillary because she was not black. way to stereotype... i guess.

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    Dude, he's saying that hispanics voted for her over Obama because she's not black.
    I'm not saying ALL Hispanics did. But a large number did. I've heard from several of my Mexican-American friends that the word myate (sp?) has a much bigger negative connotation than the N-bomb.

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    You know what PeeWee, I have already lost interest in whatever you respond to my question. You're too stupid to realize the ramifications of the superdelegates overturning the popular vote and pledged delegate count either way, so any point I was about to make would simply fly over your head.

    Either way, the super delegates overturning what the people have voted for would pretty much be the end of the party. They realize it and there is no way they'd do it. Even so, she'd need such a large number of super delegates for such a victory that is is also extremely unlikely.

    Right now Clinton's only shot at the nomination is something as awful as an assassination or scandal. Otherwise she has no chance at catching Obama in the pledged delegate count and no chance at having the super delegates defect to her in such numbers as to overturn the pledged delegate lead. Yeah, no chance sound about right.

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    I enjoy the blacks.

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    Right now Clinton's only shot at the nomination is something as awful as an assassination or scandal. Otherwise she has no chance at catching Obama in the pledged delegate count and no chance at having the super delegates defect to her in such numbers as to overturn the pledged delegate lead. Yeah, no chance sound about right.
    Snipers for Hillary

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    I have a feeling that if Obama wins the nomination and he picks Billary as his veep, we could be mourning another assassinated President soon. The Klintons will do ANYTHING to get back in the Oval Orifice.

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    Thank you for stating the obvious. Thats not what I asked. I asked if you thought they should vote opposite of what the pledge delegate count and poplular vote are.

    I did not ask if they could. I asked if you thought they should.

    Wanna try to answer again?

    I did answer the question.
    They can vote which ever way they want.

    You didn't get that?

    The DNC set it up that way.

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    Dude, he's saying htat hispanics voted for her over Obama because she's not black.
    So, all Hispanics are racist?

    Who's playing the race card here?

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    I'm not saying ALL Hispanics did. But a large number did. I've heard from several of my Mexican-American friends that the word myate (sp?) has a much bigger negative connotation than the N-bomb.
    ###### is much, much stronger than Mayate.

    It's not even close.

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    I have a feeling that if Obama wins the nomination and he picks Billary as his veep, we could be mourning another assassinated President soon. The Klintons will do ANYTHING to get back in the Oval Orifice.
    Complete with designated fall guy wearing "I-heart-James Dobson" T-shirt.

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    You didn't answer the question. But whatever. I've established you're dense.

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