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  1. #26
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    Yes it's called bad luck. Something most teams in the league face.
    Give it up mavsfan1000, you know SpursDynasty is right. The Mavs are historically more pathetic than the Grizzlies and the Clippers.

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    Bad luck??? HAHHAHAH

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    America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.

    Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me make this sloppy pile of food go DOWN.

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    Actually, in his shoes, I would deny a press credential to a member of the press that did nothing but constantly rip my team no matter what, but I wouldn't deny press credentials to ALL bloggers, so he's wrong here. He's not the only league figure to send tapes to the League Office, pretty much all teams do it. The stuff like making fun of the Riverwalk, he's just trying to stir up a rivalry with the Spurs. He's playing the role of a heel.
    I realize that. America's eating your lunch.

    Meanwhile, Cuban's threatening to sell the team because D-Wade torched that ass Games 4,5 & 6 and not because Mavs couldn't play D but because the Refs screwed em.

    I'm not trying to peel off scabs, just trying to prove my point.

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    I realize that. America's eating your lunch.

    Meanwhile, Cuban's threatening to sell the team because D-Wade torched that ass Games 4,5 & 6 and not because Mavs couldn't play D but because the Refs screwed em.

    I'm not trying to peel off scabs, just trying to prove my point.
    My only comment about the officiating in the 06 NBA Finals is...there have been plenty of non-Mav fans and people that haven't been affiliated with the franchise that have said whatever I would say, such as Phil Jackson, Tracy McGrady, Bill Simmons, etc. Ultimately you can't blame the refs, but pointing out it was a poorly-officiated series makes us crybabies, and probably for good reason. As far as I'm concerned, I like to pretend our 05-06 season ended with us overcoming an 18-point deficit on Phoenix's floor to clinch the Western Conference. What happened after that is partly what the refs did to us and what we did to ourselves.

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    So when Cuban is a total and complete on his blog, it's just because he's trying to generate excitement, and he's expressing his free speech as a member of the Internet community, but when another blogger does the same thing but Cuban doesn't like it...

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    Well some of the bloggers right now are hunting for Avery's head. While the criticism of Avery is correct, this is the worst time for the team to go through it. They need to come together, and learn how to play in this new team. They can't loose focus cause people wanna fire their coach, while that might be deserved.

    Cuban is doing this to help his team, so really there is nothing to be critical about. The Mavs have long been one of the easiest teams to cover for reporters compared to others in the league. So it's not fair to criticize Cuban for this move I think.

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    Well some of the bloggers right now are hunting for Avery's head. While the criticism of Avery is correct, this is the worst time for the team to go through it. They need to come together, and learn how to play in this new team. They can't loose focus cause people wanna fire their coach, while that might be deserved.

    Cuban is doing this to help his team, so really there is nothing to be critical about. The Mavs have long been one of the easiest teams to cover for reporters compared to others in the league. So it's not fair to criticize Cuban for this move I think.
    Nor would a self-respecting Mavericks fan ever criticize Mark Cuban for any decision he makes, no matter how hypocritical or self-serving.

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    Nor would a self-respecting Mavericks fan ever criticize Mark Cuban for any decision he makes, no matter how hypocritical or self-serving.
    Finding a Mavs fan that would do that is like finding a Spurs fan that would admit Bruce Bowen is dirty.

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    Finding a Mavs fan that would do that is like finding a Spurs fan that would admit Bruce Bowen is dirty.
    There are lots of Spurs fans that say Bruce Bowen is dirty. I don't think he is, but I criticized him for kicking Ray Allen. I'm perfectly content to make it all about the Spurs to deflect from your undying affection for Mark Cuban. Congratulations, you guys are as bad as the worst of the Spurs fans!

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    Yes it's called bad luck. Something most teams in the league face.
    A joke right?

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    There are lots of Spurs fans that say Bruce Bowen is dirty.
    There are lots of Mavs fans that say Mark Cuban is an idiot.

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    Nor would a self-respecting Mavericks fan ever criticize Mark Cuban for any decision he makes, no matter how hypocritical or self-serving.

    Whatever:

    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...8&postcount=15

    "Cuban has his rough edges and some of the ways in which he conducts the Mavericks are not admirable, such as this."
    No self-respecting Spurs fan would ever acknowledge that he runs the Mavs better than 90% of professional sports franchises.
    Last edited by Findog; 03-11-2008 at 12:04 AM.

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    No self-respecting Spurs fan would ever acknowledge that he runs the Mavs better than 90% of Mavericks owners before him.
    Fixed for accuracy.

    And that was a scathing indictment of Mark Cuban by you. He might actually furrow his brow if he were to read your mildly worded rebuke. Your membership in the Lil' Mavs' Club might be subject to review. What courage you have.

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    Cubes is the man...

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    Fixed for accuracy.

    And that was a scathing indictment of Mark Cuban by you. He might actually furrow his brow if he were to read your mildly worded rebuke. Your membership in the Lil' Mavs' Club might be subject to review. What courage you have.
    That's right, give me Ross Perot Jr or give me death! If you don't demand that he sell the club immediately to a consortium of venture capitalists that won't spend any money on the team, then you're a Mark Cuban knobgobbler.

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    Cuban pulls the using proprietary information against Nellie when his team got ass-whooped was one of the lowest and weakest moves an owner could have ever made.

    And ya wonder why he gets no respect. DOH!

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    Cuban pulls the using proprietary information against Nellie when his team got ass-whooped was one of the lowest and weakest moves an owner could have ever made.

    And ya wonder why he gets no respect. DOH!
    off, you don't even know what you're talking about. The only source for that was Nellie's lawyer, a real impartial, objective and unbiased observer. Go back and read the news articles, one thing you'll notice is that the only source for that claim was him.

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    Cuban might be on the radio in a few min's to discuss...
    http://theticket.com/listen.htm

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    That's right, give me Ross Perot Jr or give me death! If you don't demand that he sell the club immediately to a consortium of venture capitalists that won't spend any money on the team, then you're a Mark Cuban knobgobbler.
    No, when you can be counted on to show up to defend him as soon as he does something to draw criticism, show that weak-assed "not admirable" quote as evidence of your impartiality, and make up ridiculous strawman arguments like the one above when someone points out your complete man-love for Cuban, THEN you're a Mark Cuban knob gobbler.

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    No, when you can be counted on to show up to defend him as soon as he does something to draw criticism, show that weak-assed "not admirable" quote as evidence of your impartiality, and make up ridiculous strawman arguments like the one above when someone points out your complete man-love for Cuban, THEN you're a Mark Cuban knob gobbler.
    What would you have me do to express sufficient disapproval? Change my allegiance to the Spurs? Never go to a Mavs game again as long as he's the owner? Burn all my Mavs gear? Start picketing outside Mavs games? Start an anti-Cuban website? Perpetuate a Denial of Service attack on dallasmavericks.com? I mean, it's obviously not sufficient to say "I think he's wrong in this instance." You have to apparently make some sort of deeper gesture to meet with Obstucted View's approval.

    Am I impartial? No, I tend to be happy about his financial commitment to fielding a winning team. But I'm not blind either. I can recognize when he's doing something wrong.

    Are you impartial? No, you're not ing close. And you are blind if you think he ultimately represents something bad or evil in professional sports.

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    Cuban might be on the radio in a few min's to discuss...
    http://theticket.com/listen.htm
    Fake Mark Cuban or real Cuban? Post a summary here if you listen to the segment, I'm curious what he would say. He posted a response on BlogMaverick, but I didn't even bother linking or posting, because I don't really care one way or the other. He should've just let MacMahon have his credential, because the publicity isn't worth it, and he should encourage an atmosphere of transparency and accountability to the press, but ultimately this is much ado about nothing.

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    Real Mark...Norm is on.

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    off, you don't even know what you're talking about. The only source for that was Nellie's lawyer, a real impartial, objective and unbiased observer. Go back and read the news articles, one thing you'll notice is that the only source for that claim was him.
    Cuban filed the claim in arbitration. It's a matter of record. Was it a ploy? Yes. Was it a creative legal strategy? Yes. Did he do it? Absolutely.

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    Cuban filed the claim in arbitration. It's a matter of record. Was it a ploy? Yes. Was it a creative legal strategy? Yes. Did he do it? Absolutely.
    No, Cuban filed a counter-claim that Nellie broke his non-compete clause as a consultant by taking the Warriors head-coaching job. Nellie originally filed a claim that he was owed deferred compensation by Cuban from an arrangement Nellie had originally made with Ross Perot Jr, and that he was free to take the Warriors job when Cuban stopped paying him his consulting fees. When you buy an en y, you inherit all assets and liabilities. Cuban is wrong to hold up on paying money Nellie is owed. The "proprietary info" claim is NOT a matter of public record, it is Nellie's lawyer's characterization of Cuban's arbitration position. Maybe it is true, and if so, it would make Cuban a sore, petty loser, but I'm not about to take Nellie and his lawyer's word for it.

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