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BALONEY!
Well sorry I don't get your point. Why does it bother you so much that I don't think nash should of said that? And no matter what he says I think he does care about winning it all.There is no hope
BALONEY!
Nothing wrong with his statement.
To put it in real world terms, is anybody here going to consider their career a failure if they don't eventually become president of their company?
Or if the company they work for doesn't make it to #1 on the S&P 500?
I remember DRob had a quote like that prior to '99.
Nash definitely has nothing to hang his head about. Not too many players have worked harder than he has to improve his game over the years. He's not quite in Beno's league but there's always hope.
Nash is one of the more grounded players in the NBA, and a fierce compe or to boot. He really had to work hard at becoming the player he is today. I'm sure the career he's had exceeds, even his most lofty dreams. Of course he wants to win a championship. However, I believe what he is saying is "winning it all" will not define his career. I totally get what he was trying to say.
Now on the other hand, I read that Larry Hughes said “I play to enjoy myself, some people take this the wrong way, but winning a championship is not what I base everything on. I was given an opportunity to play basketball, travel around and have fun doing it and that’s what I want to do. I wouldn’t take being unhappy and not being myself and winning."
yeah, while Nash has a wider perspective, that dude has no perspective.
I remember reading that, and thinking "lame!"
That's not the direction that the owner of every team wants to take. Well it's business, but players and the organization shld have one focus on same goal.I read that Larry Hughes said “I play to enjoy myself, some people take this the wrong way, but winning a championship is not what I base everything on. I was given an opportunity to play basketball, travel around and have fun doing it and that’s what I want to do. I wouldn’t take being unhappy and not being myself and winning."
If I am an owner of an NBA team and I have a player of the same mentality> travel, having fun doesn't care about winning, he can't expect me to offer him a contract the next time around.
That's why there's Michael Jordan. And there's Tim Duncan.
When Micheal got tired of hearing people asking when he's going to win a le it motivated him to prove them otherwise and yrs later won, then became a legend.
Duncan the asterisk motivated him to win another. Silenced critics in 2003. Then people still wants more. Wants proof him winning without the Admiral->won another one in 2005. Then, 2007.
I think what motivates him now is the quest for a repeat.
It's a never-ending story.
Well, there's a reason why years later when a player retires some of them gets remembered for their accomplishments, others easily forgotten.
HEY XYLUS
DO YOU KNOW THE STORY WHY HE CUT AND RAN FROM DALLAS WHEN HE WAS A F/A?
IT SEEMED TO CHATCH DALLAS OFF GUARD WHEN HE SIGNED WITH PHX
JUST WONDERING
Under cir stances like this, where a reporter puts you between a rock and a hard spot, is where I would love to see the interviewee retaliate with a stupid, yeah stupid question of his own.....Like....
"Well, if you never get a grammy, oscar, emmy or whatever medallion or statue has been created to make sports reporters feel they are in the elite of their profession, will your career of basically doing nothing be validated?"
I would ROFLMAO if someone would throw this stupid back at them.
You'd better not be sarcastic on that one.
cause you are the same way Mr. Tpark
Last edited by polandprzem; 03-11-2008 at 09:14 AM.
There was a podcast on ESPN some days ago, with Bucher on it. Among many things he said that only 10 teams in the NBA really care about winning. They have owners who are pushing their FO to bring a championship. For the others, it's all about finding a happy medium between winning and bringing enough money. If they can have a compe ive team for 10 years, and bring in the crowds, they are happy.
This is what should worry people a lot more, not whether Nash really wants to win a ring (he does). What should he say when his owner is protecting his wallet in a moment that his team could go for a le. Is there any incentive for owners to try to win in a league with no relegation and mostly shared profits? Most American sports unfortunately are first and foremost entertainment industry, that is why they'll never achieve the level of support that soccer for example achieves around the world.
In all honesty if I were in the NBA I wouldn't give a flying if I won a ring or not, I mean it's good enough they're giving me millions of dollars to play a game, WTF cares if I win a ring and trophy, because in teh big picture an NBA championship doesn't mean anything.
because he knows he will not win one
He'd have bled all over the court in game one if the rules had only allowed him to finish. It was the "Cut me, Mick" moment of last year's playoffs. He likely wants it as much as anything in his sports life, but he's not going to let its absence define his stellar career. A part of me wishes he would, but maybe that's because i want to experience a Suns le more than anything in the world. I've watched my favorite Sun of all-time, Kevin Johnson, have his career cut short by injury and come up just short if winning that le. I'd hate for my second-favorite Sun to come up just short as well. The reason people say your the most deserving is because of the amount of time/energy/life you've put into something without being rewarded with the ultimate prize. Nash is certainly amongst the most deserving current players.
Somewhere along the line during the "Winning is Everything" Reebok commercials and the Jim Rome era of sports talk where there are two kinds of people (Winners and Chokers), we've forgotten that sports are entertainment. Nash is as entertaining a player as we have in this league, and he's great for the NBA and basketball.
Obviously you want all players in the league to want to compete for the ultimate prize, because part of the entertainment is the heated compe ion. But to imply that players should be ashamed or invalidated for failing to win a Championship (or, as the new expectation seems to be, multiple Championships) is absurd. Particularly when that player has been among the best and most entertaining in the game.
forum?
I think you meant the FORTUNE 500...
actually, i wasn't really referring to you, but i suppose you apply too.
in fact, you definitely apply, as you still don't understand the meaning of what Nash was saying.
he is the only guy in this whole thread that really just doesn't get it...There is no hope
Romo needs a in championship
It's probably because he didn't listen to the interview. I guess if he did we wouldn't have to deal with this.
I think...
Of course he wants a ring. But production is different from results, a basic principle of cogntive behaviorial therapy. You have control over the former but not the latter, and you have to be prepared for things not working out the way you want them.
One of the best takes I've ever read on here.
Not winning a le is no disgrace. Look what's happened so far this year. Pau Gasol, Shaq, Garnett, and Thomas have all gone from teams that didn't stand a chance in , to teams that are the top contenders via trade.
Sometimes it's the luck of the draw more than anything else that gets you that elusive ring.
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