Congrats to Marcus. Hope he can build on this.
We need swingman help sooooooooooo bad for next season.
He's a damn good athlete, got some real ups, and his shot is definitely better than what we saw at Arizona or the Summer League.
He may still have no long term place on the Spurs 15 man, but I will admit that it's not looking quite like the unbelievably horrible pick that many of us thought it was as recently as just a few months ago. Especially after taking into account what the roster has turned out to become this season, that wasn't a bad place to take a gamble.
since so few 2nd rounders make it to the NBA and stick, it's not surprising that Williams didn't pan out in his first go-round. There is enormus pressure on rookies, especially one like Williams who was drafted by a veteran World Champion team.
The D-league and overseas give these guys a chance to improve and earn a spot (like Bowen from the CBA) or maybe an alternative career location where they can still play for pay.
I never understood all the hate directed at this kid just because of his limitations. The best estimate of his playing ability which determined his draft position was the responsibility and choice of the FO and coaches.
Good take...
But to add to that, I think the Spurs FO projected him as a player a couple years down the road anyways. I think his hope was to stick on the team's roster and sign a long term deal, but he was smart enough to stay in the system and work on improving his game so that he can be ready to step up when his name is called.
I would anticipate a training camp invite and wouldn't be surprised if gets a two-year min deal and stays in Austin for most of next year.
I get the feeling Marcus was more a luxury tax casualty than anything else. Since there will be room under the tax threshold soon, I will not be surprised if the Spurs pick up Williams for the remainder of the season.
Last edited by ChumpDumper; 03-11-2008 at 03:37 PM.
Is it for sure that Barry is being signed to 3 more years? That seems a little crazy, to think that he has 3 more seasons. I guess if he's cheap, he could be a Steve Kerr type role player, but it always seemed like Barry didn't do that well coming in cold and trying to hit the big shot.
I thought Barry will be signed for just this season and the next.
I've dogged him in the past, but I'd like to see Williams back on the active roster this year. We desperately need some youth on the bench when the slagging old folks can't get it done.
BTW, the Hawks signed Jeremy Richardson for the remainder of the season. There's really only one swingman left in the D-League with size and upside that could match that of Marcus at this point.
Mr. Body, How could Marcus Williams be on the active roster this year? Once Barry returns, the Spurs alreday have one too many swing men. I don't see how they could have another.
nba.com has a little video about Toros :
http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/...gue_access.asxNBA TV takes in-depth look at the Austin Toros and their affiliation with the Spurs.
Good video.
Nice find
I can buy that when Mahinmi is in the lineup. But when they run Serge Aasdlfawihwhawfh at center, I don't think it can be compared too much to what the Spurs do. Especially because when the Toros are small, they like to run. When the Spurs are small, they are still mostly a half court team.
And really, my concern is more defensively. From what I've seen of Marcus Williams, he's feet are too slow to allow him to be any sort of perimeter defender. He's a good team defender but I've seen him get lit up in one-on-one situations.
When the Toros go small, I imagine that Williams is defending power forwards more than DerMarr.
Mahinmi looks quite a bit more muscular in that video. Wonder what his weight is up to.
Marcus Williams!
Looks like another big game for Williams. 26 points and 10 rebounds after three quarters.
No way he could improve that?And really, my concern is more defensively. From what I've seen of Marcus Williams, he's feet are too slow to allow him to be any sort of perimeter defender. He's a good team defender but I've seen him get lit up in one-on-one situations.
Toros vs ABQ is in OT
Toros 1st OT Thunderbirds
123 4:03 123
DerMarr Johnson is going for 50 pts, he has 43 right now
Toros 1st OT Thunderbirds
132 1:15 129
Toros 1st OT Thunderbirds
132 0:23 133
(0:23)[AUS] Williams Turnover:Palming Turnover (8 TO)
they call it in the NBDL but not NBA I guess
Toros 1st OT Thunderbirds
132 0:14 135
after 2 fts by the Thunderbirds, the toros can still tie it up with a 3
Is it slow to update or is that the longest timeout ever taken?
Toros Final Thunderbirds
134 137
Toros lose
Crappy finish to the game with the Toros losing but nice lines by Johnson and Williams.
yeah I was like whats going on, it said SHORT timeout
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