anyone have a link

[DazedAndConfused]

Right - because the Suns didn't beat the Lakers the past 2 years when it counted. And one loss came on Christmas Day when Kobe was allowed to travel every play in the 4th quarter.

Oh I love it when the Suns fan bring up the "we kicked your ass last two playoffs" routine. As if teams can't get better from season to season and rosters don't change.

You realize we have changed literally 3 of our starting 5 positions since last season? Pretty big difference in the teams don't you think?

[stretch]

If Bynum and Ariza don't make it back I completely agree with you Findog. Without those two players we are not an elite team.

And I'll be damned if a Suns fan is talking , especially after the Lakeshow spanked them 3-1 this year (with the only loss coming because Pau/Bynum weren't playing and KWAMAY BROWN was manning the center spot).

But I guess that's all the Mav and Sun fans can do at this point, talk . Maybe it's why you get along so well on this board because you both realize your franchises are done and the rebuilding period will have to start very soon. Your windows are completely shut, and both your franchises blew golden opportunities to get a ring.

Hi! You must be new here!

you for being new.

[DazedAndConfused]

Or make fun of dumbass posters who join a board and initiate -talking when their team has done nothing in the post-Shaq era.



Because we don't set out to on other teams without provocation



Dirk is 29, Josh is 27. Kidd's contract comes off the books after next season. If he's still playing at a high level, they'll resign him to a cap-friendly contract. If not, they'll use the cap space to replace him. Our window is open for another 3-4 years. Seriously, do your research.

[RonMexico]

Oh I love it when the Suns fan bring up the "we kicked your ass last two playoffs" routine. As if teams can't get better from season to season and rosters don't change.

You realize we have changed literally 3 of our starting 5 positions since last season? Pretty big difference in the teams don't you think?

I love it when Laker fan brings up "we beat you 3-1 in the season series" routine and then uses Kwame Brown as an excuse for getting blown out at home.

You do realize that we have changed literally 2 of our 5 starting positions since last season? Pretty big difference when one of them can actually guard the paint (unlike Pau).

Bynum can't guard both Shaq and Amare at the same time. And since he's only 20 years old, I'm pretty sure the refs won't give him the benefit of the doubt in every situation.

[DazedAndConfused]

I love it when Laker fan brings up "we beat you 3-1 in the season series" routine and then uses Kwame Brown as an excuse for getting blown out at home.

You do realize that we have changed literally 2 of our 5 starting positions since last season? Pretty big difference when one of them can actually guard the paint (unlike Pau).

Bynum can't guard both Shaq and Amare at the same time. And since he's only 20 years old, I'm pretty sure the refs won't give him the benefit of the doubt in every situation.

Damn I forgot Shaq was such an offensive threat these days. I mean he's been putting up some impressive 2-5pt performances lately.

[RonMexico]

Damn I forgot Shaq was such an offensive threat these days. I mean he's been putting up some impressive 2-5pt performances lately.

OMG!! He only played 16 minutes and took 1 shot, but the Suns scored 132 points!!

Stop the presses! He also had 6 assists, which contributed 12 points to the team, so his total impact was at least 14 points.

Bynum is averaging 11 pts and 0 assists.

[monosylab1k]

Damn I forgot Shaq was such an offensive threat these days. I mean he's been putting up some impressive 2-5pt performances lately.

^^^^Hi Face!

[DazedAndConfused]

OMG!! He only played 16 minutes and took 1 shot, but the Suns scored 132 points!!

Stop the presses! He also had 6 assists, which contributed 12 points to the team, so his total impact was at least 14 points.

Bynum is averaging 11 pts and 0 assists.

Try

13.1 ppg
10 rbg
2.1 bpg
1.7 apg
64% FG

All while averaging a whopping 28 mpg.

[dirk4mvp]

He gets lucky and shoots a few hoops. So what?

[RonMexico]

Try

13.1 ppg
10 rbg
2.1 bpg
1.7 apg
64% FG

All while averaging a whopping 28 mpg.

Wait... so you score on blocks?

Shaq just eclipsed those offensive numbers in a whopping 16 minutes play the other night.

[DazedAndConfused]

WTF are you talking about?

[RonMexico]

Try

13.1 ppg
10 rbg
2.1 bpg
1.7 apg
64% FG

All while averaging a whopping 28 mpg.

In 8 less minutes than Bynum, Shaq had:

2 pts
8 reb
2 blk
6 ast
100% FG

On a per-28 min basis, that's

3.5 pts
14 reb
3.5 blocks
10.5 assists

He beats Byum in assists, rebounds and blocks. With his 3.5 (let's say 4) points and 10 assists, he contributes at least 24 points per game to the Suns on a per-28 minute basis. Bynum contributes a paltry 15 pts to the Lakers' cause. Shaq also denies buckets 3.5 times on the defensive end, with Bynum registering a pitiful 2 per game.

Shaq clearly has the bigger impact.

[DazedAndConfused]

In 8 less minutes than Bynum, Shaq had:

2 pts
8 reb
2 blk
6 ast
100% FG

On a per-28 min basis, that's

3.5 pts
14 reb
3.5 blocks
10.5 assists

He beats Byum in assists, rebounds and blocks. With his 3.5 (let's say 4) points and 10 assists, he contributes at least 24 points per game to the Suns on a per-28 minute basis. Bynum contributes a paltry 15 pts to the Lakers' cause. Shaq also denies buckets 3.5 times on the defensive end, with Bynum registering a pitiful 2 per game.

Shaq clearly has the bigger impact.

Now I know why you talk all day long......because you don't know about basketball.

Ask any GM in the league who they'd rather have on their squad right now regardless of salary, Shaq or Bynum, and the answer would be unanimous. Bynum.

[RonMexico]

Now I know why you talk all day long......because you don't know about basketball.

Ask any GM in the league who they'd rather have on their squad right now regardless of salary, Shaq or Bynum, and the answer would be unanimous. Bynum.

I'm being completely sarcastic you dumbass. Your le hopes are based on a 20-year-old player with his 3rd serious knee injury coming back and meshing with his "new" team while getting in game shape days before the playoffs begin. And you say I know nothing about basketball?

Enjoy the regular season all you want with Pau's "intensity," Kobe's technicals, Turiaf's heart, Farmar's ears, Sasha's gay haircut, Fisher's slap the floor defense, Odom's disappearing act, and Luke Walton's "intangibles."

Then, enjoy Bynum contributing next to nothing in his comeback and Pau choking the playoffs away like he always does, leading Kobe to pass the ball for the entire 2nd half of a deciding Game 7.