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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    I believe it is a T to eye-guard a player who doesn't have the ball in the NBA.

    Non pdf link:

    http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_12...av=ArticleList

    m. Eye guarding (placing a hand in front of the opponent's eyes when guard-ing from the rear) a player who does not have possession of the ball is illegal and an unsportsmanlike technical shall be assessed.

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    Rosen is a dumb-ass.

    What he is calling "face guarding" is illegal only when the player doesn't have possession of the ball and is trying to get the ball. It's for situations like a defender guarding the low post and then putting his hands over the guy trying to get position in the low post to receive a pass.

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    I just posted the link because somebody else had the same thought as DaC. I didn't watch the game.

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    so they are saying the refs miss the call on every possession?? i know kobe is one of the greatest baller now but can they stop riding on his once and give the credit to battier's good D?
    Didn't watch the game, I just posted the link because Rosen echoed what DaC was complaining about.

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    I gotta say Battier played the best D on Kobe of any player I've seen this season, including Bowen. He completely took away Kobe's outside game, and since Kobe wasn't getting calls when he took it to the rack he was completely ineffective all around.

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    The last time I looked at the rule book, face-guarding was illegal
    When was that, Charley? We should keep track to see if he acknowledges his dumbassery.

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    Well, the question now is:

    WHY is it so rarely done??!

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    in the almighty words of a very whiny lakers fan after some very sour grapes...


    ....interesting.

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    Please STFU Dreamshake. When you beat us healthy then you can talk smack, until then enjoy your win against another undermanned team.

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    Well, the question now is:

    WHY is it so rarely done??!
    b/c it's harder said than done...you could poke someone's eye out.

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    Well, the question now is:

    WHY is it so rarely done??!

    I would think because to employ it the way battier does is almost impossible.

    I can't imagine how on god green earth, chasing Kobe around screens, and curls that everytime kobe rose up battier was able to swing his hand right inbetween kobe's arm and under the ball just inches from his face. I don't know how he never once hit an arm, hit the face or anything. If I was Kobe I would of just stopped fading away and leaned into a couple of those drawing fouls...lol.

    But then again, he might get hurt trying that.

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    Please STFU Dreamshake. When you beat us healthy then you can talk smack, until then enjoy your win against another undermanned team.
    We did..first game of the year. Moron. Oh in that game Bynum was a killer with 4 boards and 4 points.

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    Well, the question now is:

    WHY is it so rarely done??!
    well players hate to play defense in general because...
    A.) its not cool, swishing jumpers is cooler
    B.) it takes a lot more energy to play D than outscoring ur opponents
    C.) many players.coaches still think they can keep outscoring opponents (w/o any defense) to a championship
    D.) most important: defense does NOT show on stat, so playing defense cant net a player a bigger contract.

    as for the hand in the face D, its very hard to get a hand in the opponent's face without touching his head. the angle has to be just right so that your hand and arm goes thru between the opponent's shooting hands and his head.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Next game against Houston, Kobe would be smart to just wear goggles and lean into Battier every chance he gets. He's ing Kobe, he's gonna get that call, and Battier will quit with that technique or he'll foul out in about 30 seconds.

    But that is some bad ass defensive strategy by Battier. That guy is a non-dirty Bruce Bowen.

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    ^^I agree Mono. Kobe will adjust if Battier tries this kind of defense again. And Kobe getting 4 free throws the entire game won't happen again, I can guarantee you that.

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    ^^I agree Mono. Kobe will adjust if Battier tries this kind of defense again. And Kobe getting 4 free throws the entire game won't happen again, I can guarantee you that.
    thats the number of FTs Kobe will get if he keeps jacking up contested jumpers against an elite defender. how about flying into the paint DWade style? im sure he will get as many FTs as DWade gets

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    I noticed Battier employing a technique of putting his hand directly over Kobe's eyes whenever he shot. Is this legal in the NBA? I've certainly never seen anyone defend Kobe like that before.
    Is face-guarding legal in the NBA?
    I can see your name is fitting, you know nothing about basketball. The fact is that that's the BEST defense against shooters.

    I used to practice with my coach putting a broom in my face on every jumpshot. Made me of a shooter. I never faced anyone with a hand the size of broom.

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    Damn! Do you guys know that's how 5-0 and Rodman defended almost every shooter?

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    Damn! Do you guys know that's how 5-0 and Rodman defended almost every shooter?
    I was a little confused about the term "face-guarding." I thought surely he wasn't referring to getting your hands up to contest shots. It seems like if a defender were to do what DAC is talking about, all you have to do is lean in to draw the foul.

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    Yes but leaning in to a hand in front of your eyes is potentially dangerous.

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    Yes but leaning in to a hand in front of your eyes is potentially dangerous.
    Why don't more guys do what Battier did? Is there a youtube up? I want to see this.

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    Guys do it, just not as effective.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Yes but leaning in to a hand in front of your eyes is potentially dangerous.
    Yeah. I don't see why Kobe didn't find a pair of goggles at halftime, looked at Battier and said "try it now MFer."

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    They taught when I played JV basketball when you defend, to put your hand up in the guys face, just don't touch him. Anything to make the shot difficult.

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