If Air America's ratings improve, they will pop up on other CC stations.
As anyone who does any business with CC can tell you, they don't care about anything but money. Rush and Hannity have huge ratings and enough support from sponsors to be a financially beneficial endeavor for CC. Air America does not have either right now. Air America is also relatively new, and if it remains a relevant enterprise, Clear Channel will likely switch more of its stations to their format over time.
Clear Channel does not feel a moral duty to give equal time to all political ideologies, nor should they. They rely on advertiser revenue, which is based on ratings. They're not NPR.
I should also point out that many advertisers are hesitant to sponsor talk shows of this sort... Rush or Franken... due to fears of consumer backlash. However, Rush and Hannity have such good ratings in certain key demographics that enough sponsors find it too good to resist.
Your understimating the power of radio. These right-wing hacks are given a voice by stations owned by CCC, but by not giving opposing views equal time these stations are not serving the public's best interest - they are putting profits before corporate responsibility. Independent broadcasters like Thom Hartman and Lionel are every bit as informative, entertaining and enjoyable as many of the lesser known right-wingers on OAI, but since they don't represent views consistent with the political views of the owners of the station, do you honestly think they are ever going to give these to two fine gentlemen equal time? no.CCC doesn't give anyone market saturation. By proving to advertisers that the money they spend results in higher sales, the shows in question earn market saturation
Read my lips. No one is given anything.
The power is in advertiser dollars and in listener ratings (which drives the income of dollars).
When Lionel and Thom Hartman bring in ratings like Rush and Hannity, they'll get the time.
And the Flaming Lips are more talented musically than Hillary Duff. So what?Independent broadcasters like Thom Hartman and Lionel are every bit as informative, entertaining and enjoyable as many of the lesser known right-wingers on OAI, but since they don't represent views consistent with the political views of the owners of the station, do you honestly think they are ever going to give these to two fine gentlemen equal time? no.
Why left thumb is more talanted than that twit.
Anyhow, back to your debate.
Your argument simply doesn't hold any water. Your saying that a up-start like right-wing ideologue Jeff Bolton is more popular and profitable for CCC than nationally syndicated liberal shows like Thom Hartman and Lionel. I say that's bull .
Air America started up like a year ago and already has 41 affiliates. Its growth is spectacular despite the missteps by the original leadership.
And yes, when Air America's saturation gets to the point where they start influencing the political landscape, I can almost guarantee that right-wingers will be complaining about the unfairness of it all, because that is how the game is played.
That's because when you are a sand gnat, a mouse might as well be a buffalo.so far the only opinions I have read from you are like a echo chamber from right-wing conservative radio.
If not CCC and OAI, then someone, anyone, must give the progressive voice equal time...
Rutland HeraldBRATTLEBORO — A southern Vermont-based radio station will trade in the rhetoric of Rush Limbaugh and other conservative talk show hosts for the liberal commentary of Air America next week.
WKVT-AM 1490 in Brattleboro will replace four of its weekday syndicated conservative talk shows on Jan. 17 with programs from the fledgling liberal radio network Air America, which launched in March.
The station will be the second in Vermont to broadcast Air America programs, which include shows hosted by comedian Al Franken and actress Jeanne Garofalo.
The Brattleboro area is highly liberal in its political beliefs and the Air America shows will be a better fit for the station's listeners than the conservative programs hosted by Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly, said WKVT program director Peter Case.
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(a) Bolton came here from another market, where he had already made his mark.
(b) You're making the assertion. Prove it. Numbers, please.
Led Zeppelin and Britney Spears are never on the same station.
Conservative talk radio and Liberal Talk radio are completely different formats. They attract completely different demos and advertisers.
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ok, ive seen this numerous times from posters before on this board, i guess im out of the loop here...why do you leave the W off of WOAI?If not CCC and OAI
There's really nothing to it, but when you say OAI your being a little ambiguous and it's a way to protect yourself from over-scrupulous corporate hacks who have figured out how to use Google. OAI certainly never leaves W off, that's for sure.
*rimshot*
Talk radio is horrible overall. I wish both sides would go away. They do nothing but muddy the damn waters with their endless rehtoric and spin then act like angels when you call them on it.
In short, they are all full of . You see, NBA Dan and Yonivore are the talk show hosts of this forum.
I couldn't agree more.
It is clear that Bush won't take responsibility for any of his actions.
But I guess we must go with the President we have, not the one we want.
Look I'm that last person to bring up punctuation smack here, but if you are going to call me stupid at least spell genius right. Genius!!!
Here are your own words:
Then you stated this:Quote: Originally Posted by Nbadan
If you don't think that CBS has a responsibility to the public then you are living in La-La land and there is no need to carry on this debate any longer. The only leg network news has to stand on is its credibility to the public. Broadcast regulations and standards are set by the FCC, so your comparison to someone simply shouting out things in public is intellectually dishonest at best.
So you say in one quote how network news has a responsibility to the public, then in the next quote you state that MSM has been bought out by corporate interests and are looking out for their own interests before those of the public. Why the contradiction Dan? Is CBS not main stream media? Please explain it me.The only reason large-scale election inconsistencies and voter suppression aren't a bigger issue is because our MSM has been bought out by corporate interests who are looking out for their own interests and pocket-books before those of the public they are supposed to serve, even so far as to turn their backs on democracy. Governmental checks and balances that are supposed to protect us against this sort of thing have been broken down by one-party rule and political indimidation by the Domininist.
Here we go with the black-opts again...
Has Bush denied that he sent troops into Iraq? What has he not taken responsibility for?
You may not want him as president, but a majority did.
This is exactly what everyone here is talking about Dan. The station wants listeners so it's going to change it's format to suit it's audience. Why? Because it needs an audience to make money from advertisers. If every station and media outlet were going to serve the public under your terms, BET would be showing Dawson's Creek marathon, Galavision would have Law and Order, and CBS would have Soul Train on constantly. Different views don't always get equal time. If that were the case MTV would actually play music. Anyone remember what type of music 102.7 used to have on? And now?
Here's an idea Dan, get XM or Sirus radio. I'm sure they have an "All Black Helicopter" radio station.
Prove it how? There are no syndicated Progressive radio shows on San Antonio's radio dials, that's my whole point, but look at how SA votes in any election. A majority of the inner-city residents are progressives but are not served by any of SA's major AM radio stations, and certainly not by the two major media conglomerations - Infinity or CCC.You're making the assertion. Prove it. Numbers, please.
Just because they vote Democratic doesn't mean they are politically aware or activist. Would they listen to political radio like many right-wingers do? Do the inner-city residents have any money to purchase advertisers' products?
If I'm expanding a nationwide liberal radio network, SA is maybe fourth or fifth on my list in Texas, and there are a lot of places I will go before I hit Texas. Texas is a synonym for " " in a lot of leftie circles.
Nevertheless, I would be surprised if AA is not in Austin by the end of this year or next. If it hasn't happened, maybe then I could entertain the notion of political censorship by Texas radio conglomerates.
If I am a left-wing extremist and Yoni is a right-wing extremist, then Manny is the worst kind of extremist of all, the middle-of-the-roader who polls people first before taking a position on anything. Look at topics Manny starts in the forum, rarely does he take a position on anything before feeling out how the rest of the forum feels about the topic first. In the war of political extreme debate, middle-of-the-roaders are the kind of politicians that we love to loathe most of all.
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You mean...like a flip-flopper?
Total and utter bull .Look at topics Manny starts in the forum, rarely does he take a position on anything before feeling out how the rest of the forum feels about the topic first.
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