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Still haven't gotten an explanation why Pop seems to think Finley is an effective power forward.
Fans reserve the right to get up or down on their teams. They pay the tickets and buy the merchandise without the large salaries, in most cases. Its the nature of professional sports. So I'm glad that Spurs fans are pissed off at the team's performance. It certainly doesn't make them any less of a "true" fan.
Still haven't gotten an explanation why Pop seems to think Finley is an effective power forward.
Playing Bowen and Udoka more together will happen I think once the playoffs near or start. I think Finley's minutes will drop once the playoffs start and if Barry starts rolling like he was most of the season.
I'll believe it when I see it. My avatar shows my confidence in Pop's vision.
One thing I've been seeing lately that has happened to coincide with the team's troubles is that TD is getting into that wait and see approach in the post.
He's backing up, backing up and waiting to see what the defense does. Too many times last night he would wait on the defense to dictate what he did instead of being proactive and forcing the issue himself.
I know he's not as young as he used to be and not quite as mobile. But, I would like to see Tim force the action at times and put the other team's defense on their heels.
Get the ball in the post and make quick moves to the basket. Face up the defender and make quick moves to the basket. Tim isn't getting to the FT line nearly enough and he is still fully capable of making the other team's defense react to what HE does.
I've seen him take this type of proactive approach in the past and other teams have had some realy difficulties in dealing with him when he plays this way. Just a thought........
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Sean Elliott is always saying that when Tim tends to do that. I agree. At times he waits too long to make a move or pass.
You don't have to play slowdown offense when you're up 22 and then up 9 with 5 minutes to go. Very dissapointed in Pops ordering it slowed down. Very obvious after one Celts miss whereupon Tony was running it upcourt and Pop ordered him to stop and then ordered Poppy conservaball. The shot clock expiring is inexcusable. No i do not attribute that to Celtics D. Pops stop n veg offense makes the players indecisive, all it accomplishes is feeding opponents agressiveness, lets opponents rest while Stand n Veg is being employed. Tims holding the ball is ridiculous.
Seriously blown game.
You still have to give credit to the Celts though. That team pulled together and played good defense on the Spurs.
Great game last night...very entertaining
timvp's posts are the best reads on this forum. He doesn't sugar-coat anything.
Calling a spade a spade doesn't mean you're quitting on the team or whining -- you're just calling it like you see it.
Great breakdown of the game. Sam Cassell single-handedly brought the Celtics back into the game. Before he entered the game, the Celtics looked a little s -shocked and it showed in their body language. Sam comes in and immediately hit several jumpers and suddenly cut the lead in half. His play and, more importantly, his leadership, will be important for the Celts in the playoffs.
Oh, bull .
Don't challenge anyone's credentials as a "real fan" because they don't agree with you. You will come across looking like an idiot.
Tough loss indeed...
Even if you're homer and what some call "true fan" you've got to be objective about the spurs performance and admit the team is displaying a lot of flaws.
The effort on the defensive end is sometimes nowhere to be found and as a spurs fan, it's not something we're used to see by the end of march.
Pop needs to settle the rotation asap. Let's hope the upcoming (and easier) schedule will allow that.
We need wins no matter what.
-Tim Duncan was flustered by the Celtics’ defense. Boston came out of the gates daring Duncan with single-team coverage. After Duncan toyed with them early on, the Celtics changed it up and starting sending boatloads of help. Duncan never readjusted and instead simply disappeared. He finished with ten points, eight rebounds and three blocked shots, while shooting 4-for-8 from the field. Considering he wasn’t in foul trouble, it was just a very un-Duncan like performance. I’m confident he’ll turn it around but the Spurs need that turnaround to be ASAP. Duncan putting up a Rasho Nesterovic-esque line won’t get it done.
Time for Timmy to put the team on his back and get it done. Make everyone else a role player to his dominance. It's time for post-season Duncan.
And put a spork in Finley. He's done.
It is time.
And I would think he knows it, especially after last night.
This board went nuts, I can only imagine how he felt with his performance on his home court in a game they should have won. He was aggressive to start, he needed to stay that way even with Boston's swarming defense on him. Post-season Duncan makes that adjustment.
We'll see that Duncan from here on out.
Rasho had 13 points and 12 rebounds last night.He finished with ten points, eight rebounds and three blocked shots, while shooting 4-for-8 from the field.
Duncan putting up a Rasho Nesterovic-esque line won’t get it done.
Going way out on a limb there- huh?As of this second, I’d rate the Celtics as the team with the best chance to win the championship.
Tim is still the centerpiece of this team, everything feeds off him. He can't go for the stats he had last night against one of the best teams in the NBA. It didn't work last night and it won't work in the playoffs if we have any hope of repeating.
And I fully believe that Tim is capable of asserting himself in the post and making quicker decisions and forcing defenses to react to him instead of the other way around.
When Tim is assertive everyone on the team benefits from his play and the added attention he gets.
Don't count on it. The second part, I mean, where the Spurs manage to brush up on their draft knowledge. They could wind up with the #2 pick and use it on Luc Richard Mbah a Moute.
For my increasingly saddened money, the season ended last night. That was a gut-check game, the one to say they were here until the very end, that the Spurs were a roadblock to the championship, damn it, and no one was going to knock them down. They looked it at first - come out like gangbusters. But I had the strong sense even then it was going to be a tight game. These guys just don't have it anymore, it's over. The front office failed to make the team younger, more athletic, and talented. The guys on the bench are just old, old, old.
You can't lose a game like this, this late in the season, and it not mean anything. Thursday in Chicago is no big deal, I think they have Sacramento later. With about 20 games left, can they win enough to stay in the playoffs?
Excellent take. I've been shouting those instructions at Tim (via the TV) for a couple of years now. I mean WTF is he waiting on?
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At this point, they could go thru the motions and pull out 50-54 wins but losing last night showed me that they no longer have what it takes to win it all, especially not this year with the West being so good. Better to prepare for next year by resting the guys you will need to make a strong drive for the le in 2009 and bettering your draft position...
Lol,.. did I hurt your ego?
Bottom line is timvp got jumped on by many because he dared to dream despite the last losses... then he had to tone it down a little bit because everybody was going after him. That's the bottom line.
Hey.. if this forum stole your life, not my fault
Agreed.When the Celtics went small in the fourth quarter, Pop responded by going small. I don’t think that was a horrible decision but I do think he made a mistake in going with Finley in the small ball lineup. Udoka or even Vaughn would have been better options
Udoka until Barry comes back, has to take Finley's minutes just on account of being a better defensive player if anything.
Fin needs to take a few games off.
Hes been doing this since 2000, where have you been?Get the ball in the post and make quick moves to the basket. Face up the defender and make quick moves to the basket. Tim isn't getting to the FT line nearly enough and he is still fully capable of making the other team's defense react to what HE does.
Tough loss. Had the lead most of the game and blew it. One thing I can say is, they better go on a nice run again or it'll be over. Another thing, that Celtic team is loaded now with Cassell added in. They're pretty tough---we'll see in a series how it turns out.
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