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The barbosa trade was prearranged, they never drafted him then said eh we don't want him.
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Pop and Duncan wanted Howard, RC wanted Jason Kidd.
The barbosa trade was prearranged, they never drafted him then said eh we don't want him.
Interesting. Are you fairly certain this is true???? You have a good source??
Good, at least Tim can turn it into aggression.
When Timmay retires.
Its been pretty well known for a while now honestly.
yeah, just like the way he hired himself as head coach cause no one else would.
I just always thought it was Pop that pushed signing Kidd.
T Park, think about it. Do you think that a GM (Buford) would have tried to force a player ( Kidd) on a coach ( Pop) who wanted another player (Howard) instead? I just do not see Buford over ruling a coach that had just won his second le and forcing a player on Pop he didn't want.
During the Kidd negotiations, Parker was quoted with a critical comment about acquiring Kidd. I remember Pop going ballistic with his own acid comments in the paper directed back towards Tony. During the negotiations, I recall many quotes by Pop in the paper glowing about Kidd.
After Kidd turned us down, Pop went globe hoping to Slovenia (or wherever Rasho was living) to talk him into signing with us. I would have thought had it been Buford pushing to sign Kidd, Buford would have went to Slovenia.
So based on all this, I beleive it was Pop that vetoed drafting Howard and going after Kidd.
Last edited by Twisted_Dawg; 03-19-2008 at 06:30 AM.
omg......
There's plenty of blame to go around.
The owner and front-office have made numerous moves which make more sense from a financial perspective than basketball-wise. They have also made foolhardy bets on decrepit vet PGs (NVE, Mouse) during "repeat" seasons.
The coach hasn't got the best out of his players and rotations. Pop is a very good Xs and Os coach, but he does make in-game errors (crucial subs utions that have lost us a few games, doubling KG and leaving Sam open vs the Celtics, etc).
The team is sucking ass. They're losing their composure in the clutch, which is inexcusable for a veteran team. Yes they may have lost some athletic ability, but making boneheaded/scared plays down the stretch (vs the Suns, Pistons, Celtics, etc etc) means we can't keep or extend leads
Let's hope they can all pull their heads out of their asses by April.
Pop didn't want to coach. The players essentially "hired" him, growing tired of Bob Hill's glory grabbing/blame game flip flop.
wrongRobinson was upset when Bob Hill was fired and pop was conveniently taking over the day he came back from injury
Despite being one of his biggest coaching critics, I think what we are seeing right now has more to do with Pop and RC's fondness for senior citizen role players.
Only POP?
I know is a what if scenario ... but Barbosa is great enough, I am amazed how the best scouting execs did an excelent job getting TP + Manu, but lost Barbosa + Scola ...
I'm sick of the "Pop owns everything to TD".
Never heard opposite players/coaches talking about how well Spurs executes, are organised, concentrates on D, maintain chemistry, are classy... ? (maybe not that much lately)
Where does it come from IYO ? Who is the guy who impulses all those notions ?
Note to the FO: Building a successful roster, DOES NOT necessarily include having predominantly senior citizen ball players. Other teams (BOS, HOUT, DET) are doing well with a better mix of experience and youth.
Re: The firing of Bob Hill. Didn't Avery go into Pop's office and tell him Hill had lost the team and the players no longer had confidence in him? And this was the final straw which sealed Hill's demise?
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