obama. does that answer your question?
You got to be kidding me. It is governments job to
address the causes of anger. Community responsibility
and government reform/programs.
OMG, we have enough of these, they have already
sunk two or three ships.
How about a little "personal" responsibility. And just
plain old taking care of your own business.
Don't you think it was be a false statement to suddenly condemn someone after all this time?
Seriously...you should actually hear the speech.
Do you hear or listen. There is a difference you know.
Oh thats deep...
I understand the reasoning of the attacks on Obama from a political point of view. It is very damaging even if it is guility by association. I've gone to my wife's Baptist church numerous times and I have not heard anything that I would consider hateful or divisive. But I also understand Obama's speech and the points he was trying to address. There was little chance he was going to change the minds and opinions of those who have already made up their minds.
I never expected to suddenly hear praise from Rush Limbaug or Sean Hannity and surely didn't expect those who post in here to have a sudden change of heart. Was I hoping for it? Sure but I knew it wouldn't happen.
Heck, the first few words out of Joe Pag's pie hole yesterday proved that to me.
In all seriousness, I think Obama's church problem has really damaged him compounded by his refusal to denounce Rev. Hatred as well as his subtle defense of him, and his refusal to quickly distance from that church.
I think those middle of the road demo voters as well as swing voters will re-think voting for Hillary or the War Machine.
I concur and that is a sad thing.
I think that the Obama campaign probably released this themselves, every wingnut media shill has caught onto the Wright issue, but in all seriousness, the PA primary is still weeks away and the M$M that is really helping to pimp this story for now has a very, very, short attention span...besides, the people who are hurt by this would not have voted for Obama anyway - caucasion males......
....if anything I'm encouraged that Obama was able to turn this issue into a positive instead of going negative on Hillary - like asking why she hasn't released her tax statements....
...and I would take Extra Stout's predictions with a big grain of salt until he builds some sort of track record...
No matter what PA will again be another argument for Hillary to use against Obama. I know Bill and others are vigoruously reaching out to Super Delegates to tell them to wait and see how far Obama falls before they make a decisioin.
...this issue seems important now, but maybe not so important after the next controversy comes around, and the Super Delegates would be insane to support anything but the delegate count leader at the end of the primaries/caucuses, no matter what the Wing-nut M$M shills say....
No way the republican party is going to let this issue die. This Rev.Wright issue will be one of, if not the key issue used against Obama if he should win the nomination. They will take fear mongoring to the extreme and it has worked before and they will use it again. Make no mistake about it.
This issue would hurt McCain as much as it has supposedly hurt Obama, with his close relations to fundamentalist wackos like Hagee and Robertson, nah, this will play out for everyone but the Faux News crowd who don't matter anyway.....
I'm more concerned with what happens NOW. Keep in my mind that those numbers are BEFORE all this crap about Obama came out.
So Joe you think that Obama is really going to hurt from this whole fiasco?
A few of Rev. Wrights comments.
– September 2001: “The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied.”
– September 2001: “We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki. And we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.”
– September 2001: “We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because of stuff we have done overseas is now brought back into our own backyard. America is chickens coming home to roost.”
– April 2003: “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes three-strike laws and wants them to sing God Bless America. No! No No! God damn America … for killing innocent people. God damn America for threatening citizens as less than humans. God damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and supreme.”
– December 2007: “Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich, white people. Hillary would never know that.”
– December 2007: “Hillary ain’t never been called a ######. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person.”
– Jan. 13, 2008: “Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain’t! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty.”
– “Fact number one: We’ve got more black men in prison than there are in college. … Fact number two: Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run.”
– “We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns and the training of professional killers. … We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God. … We conducted radiation experiments on our own people. … We care nothing about human life if the ends justify the means.
And … And … And! God! Has got! To be sick! Of this !”
Rev. Wright is a blatant racist with hate and rage principally towards whites. If for 20 years, Obama could sit at the feet of this hatemonger and NOT be mortified at his venemous spewings or denounce the man, he is not the president for me. Mr. Obama is obviously duplicitious at the least ,and complicitious by his not getting up and walking out on his “pastor” of some twenty years. I was really looking forward to his speech and getting this Wright situation behind him, but he really dissapointed me by NOT denouncing Wright.
You almost had me Obama, not anymore.
so, does this mean wright shouldn't expect a write-in vote from you?
Obama supporters, I have a question. How does Obama hold Don Imus to one standard, calling for his head after the Rutgers incident, yet wants to give Rev. Wright a pass. As always Obamas speech was filled with inspiring rhetoric, but I found it appaulling that he tried to make the audience understand where Wright's hatred comes from. I don't think so Obama.
GO HILLARY!
Last edited by LakerMagic; 03-20-2008 at 12:18 AM.
If this is what you got from his speech, then there's no point in futher discussion.
Weak. You didn't even answer my question because you couldn't.
And yes Obama did make excuses for Wrights comments. If you even say he didn't you didn't see or hear his speech and are just being an idiot troll in this thread.
...I think we are starting to see the real face of Obama critics - anti-affirmative action, anti-civil rights.....you all know the type...they act like discrimination doesn't happen anymore because it doesn't happen to them....
OR, people who don't like Anti-American crap and people who defend such people who spew it.
BILL CLINTON '08!
Being "offended" by what Wright said requires denial that black Americans have any legitimate grievances resulting from their treatment by white Americans over the last 220+ years. What's wrong with being offended is that being offended is the product of intellectual dishonesty....
So we are suppose to let him(Wright) spew anti-american crap because of that. I don't think so. Not this American. I think Dr. Martin Luther the King would disagree with Wrights statements. He was a man, an American, who did it right.
GO HILLARY!
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